Massive Price Drop!

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

Yes, it is more complete, and i am still playing SH3 GWX, but mainly because of the modders work, but isn't that obvious that the things are getting worse and worse with each incarnation of SH? And isn't that obvious that the lack of respect to the customers is less with each product? Why should we support this kind of company with our wallets, with our ideas, with our hearts and minds? Maybe it's time to put a stop on this and create a fresh start. With somebody else, anyone else different than Ubi.

I don't see anyone being forced into a position of supporting Ubi.

Ubi are the only game developer with their hat in the ring regarding WWII U-boat simulations.

I accept your description regarding the icompleteness of recent releases but I would also point out that people aren't taking it 'lying down'....there are many threads and posts on view that show the disdain at the quality of the SH5 release. There are however, many of the opposite opinion/viewpoint.

In the main it has been left to post release patches and the efforts of the modding community to make each release more enjoyable/complete/immersive (insert your own description).

What you would like to see is a culture change....a new or different beginning.

That will only come about if and when Ubi withdraw from the genre or a new games developer arrives on the scene.

I'm trying to maintain a neutral stance (difficult at times addmitedly) because of my previous involvement but am prepared to support anything or anybody who enhance the sub simming experience.

Originally Posted by jimbuna

I don't see anyone being forced into a position of supporting Ubi.

Ubi are the only game developer with their hat in the ring regarding WWII U-boat simulations.

I accept your description regarding the icompleteness of recent releases but I would also point out that people aren't taking it 'lying down'....there are many threads and posts on view that show the disdain at the quality of the SH5 release. There are however, many of the opposite opinion/viewpoint.

In the main it has been left to post release patches and the efforts of the modding community to make each release more enjoyable/complete/immersive (insert your own description).

What you would like to see is a culture change....a new or different beginning.

That will only come about if and when Ubi withdraw from the genre or a new games developer arrives on the scene.

I'm trying to maintain a neutral stance (difficult at times addmitedly) because of my previous involvement but am prepared to support anything or anybody who enhance the sub simming experience.

I understand your position well, and I know you and other folks made GREAT GREAT things for this community cleaning Ubi's mess, and I know you can't say all that you have in mind or all that you feel. But I can afford this "luxury", I am not a disruptor of the "order", it's just that I am not so happy with the direction things are going, and I know that I am not the only one here.
I want you to understand, I play SH3 GWX mainly because of you and others like you , with the stock Ubi product I've played one hour and it was enough for me...
But I hope you are clever enough to know that without myself telling you that. I suppose you know that GWX, LSH, WAC teams made the game playable for a lot of members here.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Gunnodayak

I understand your position well, and I know you and other folks made GREAT GREAT things for this community cleaning Ubi's mess, and I know you can't say all that you have in mind or all that you feel. But I can afford this "luxury", I am not a disruptor of the "order", it's just that I am not so happy with the direction things are going, and I know that I am not the only one here.
I want you to understand, I play SH3 GWX because of you and others like you mainly, with the stock Ubi product I've played one hour and it was enough for me...

Then we share a clear understanding of each others position and viewpoints.

Mutual respect and understanding is one of the foundation blocks that makes this community such a great/special place.

SINK EM ALL!!