Massive Price Drop!

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by The General

@Nerdmann

I can't believe I gotta waist my thousandth Post to show you the error of your ways

SH5 1.2 is the best subsim there has ever been. That's right, I said 1.2!

For you to create a thread that serves no other purpose than to gloat the demise of a great franchise for Subsim fans is reprehensible. If this was my Website, I'd simply boot you off.

Don't condescend me by suggesting that I don't know how the system works with regard to sales figures. If the game is available for practically nothing, less than one month after release, they'll be no more and that's the bottome line!

Look, I don't know what you've been smoking/drinking, and frankly I don't care. This thread was not created to 'gloat' over the so called demise of Silent Hunter, but to point out to those who have yet to purchase the game (for whatever reason) that now may be the opportune time to do so.

As it happens, I am tempted to spend £12 and mod the hell out of the game, so don't come in here and tell me, or anyone else for that matter, that we are responsible for the demise of a genre which has been sinking for some time. Thank you very much.

If you are incapable of understanding the points I was raising, that it your concern, not mine. Please stop attacking everyone who you suspect may not have the same opinion as you, it does not go down well in a 'mature' forum.

[Coldcall]

Actually there are some interesting price comparisons at amazon UK

1) SH5 = £12.98

2) SH4 Mousepad = £9.99

3) SH4 + u-boats addon = £12.95

4) Uboats for SH4 (just the expansion) = £9.95

Lets play a game. Which one of those doesnt fit? :-) Sesame Street anyone...

[The General]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

As it happens, I am tempted to spend £12 and mod the hell out of the game,.

How do you know you need to MOD the hell out of it when you haven't played it? I bet you support Manchester United having never even been to Manchester too?

The people who haven't yet purchased the game can't really call themselves Subsim fans can they? They're the followers not the leaders.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by The General

How do you know you need to MOD the hell out of it when you haven't played it? I bet you support Manchester United having never even been to Manchester too?

*Insert double facepalm here* Let me ask you a question, has there ever been a Silent Hunter that wasn't in need of modding? Oh, now be honest, can you think of one?

As for football, hate the bloody sport personally.

Originally Posted by The General

The people who haven't yet purchased the game can't really call themselves Subsim fans can they? They're the followers not the leaders.

Well, that's done it, you've finally confirmed my suspicions. You are nothing but a troll, plain and simple. Welcome to my ignore list.

[thyro]

Originally Posted by Coldcall

Actually there are some interesting price comparisons at amazon UK

1) SH5 = £12.98

2) SH4 Mousepad = £9.99

3) SH4 + u-boats addon = £12.95

4) Uboats for SH4 (just the expansion) = £9.95

Lets play a game. Which one of those doesnt fit? :-) Sesame Street anyone...

SH4 Pack collections edition (with game plus addon) under £5 ... better price and far better game than SH5 currently is.

http://www.game.co.uk/Games/PC-Games/Silent-Hunter-4-Collectors-Pack/~r333180/

It is tough but true...

[Easy Tiger]

Thanks Nordmann, probably going to buy this now - looks like holding out was worth it

[Easy Tiger]

Originally Posted by The General

How do you know you need to MOD the hell out of it when you haven't played it? I bet you support Manchester United having never even been to Manchester too?

The people who haven't yet purchased the game can't really call themselves Subsim fans can they? They're the followers not the leaders.

Someone got out the wrong side of bed this morning

[The General]

Originally Posted by Easy Tiger

Someone got out the wrong side of bed this morning

Actually, my girlfriend called it quits last night. Can't imagine why

[Filson]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

I think what it says is that the 'casual gamers' it was targeted at are not buying it, and neither are a lot of subsimmers who are angry over the DRM.

Now all we need is for Ubisoft to make an executive decision not to waste any server time with this game, and we'll then get a patch to play it offline.

At that point, we can really start to mod and play it.

As for future games in the Franchise...who knows? Looks unlikely though.

I suspect the DRM won't be lasting much longer. These quick, steep price reductions (seemingly UK only for the time being) seem to indicate that retailers will not be re-upping their stock of SHV. That, in turn, suggests there is no incentive for Ubi to maintain the DRM which uses Ubi's resources.

I would love to see some sales data information for the day after they remove DRM. I, for one, will probably be buying it then.

C Filson

[Dave]

Has SH5 1.2 been released yet? i thought it was still being worked on.

[Safe-Keeper]

It's being worked on, but I heard that the idiots at Ubi are going to force you to be connected to the Internet while downloading it. I'm not getting it 'til they fix that.

Okay, bad joke.

Originally Posted by The General

For you to create a thread that serves no other purpose than to gloat the demise of a great franchise for Subsim fans is reprehensible. If this was my Website, I'd simply boot you off.

I would boot you off before you booting off somebody else ... Maybe you should learn some manners in your village.

Originally Posted by The General

@Nerdmann

I can't believe I gotta waist my thousandth Post to show you the error of your ways

SH5 1.2 is the best subsim there has ever been. That's right, I said 1.2!

For you to create a thread that serves no other purpose than to gloat the demise of a great franchise for Subsim fans is reprehensible. If this was my Website, I'd simply boot you off.

Don't condescend me by suggesting that I don't know how the system works with regard to sales figures. If the game is available for practically nothing, less than one month after release, they'll be no more and that's the bottome line!

Are you for real? I'm new here and new to this game but my brother-in-law has shown me SH4 and 3 in the past. You really think this is the best game released? Granted they have been modded and patched more so it's not a fair comparison but this game has bugs! It's pretty and all, I like that, but there's some weird stuff happening that even a new guy like me notices pretty easily. Okay, I'm not home so I don't know, but has 1.2 been released? If not, how can you claim that? Why do you have to insult Nordmann?

If this game fails it's not the reviewers fault for stating how the game is in its' current condition, you get that, right dude? It fails because of how it was released and how many people, it seems, have an issue with that DMR thing- I don't care either way personally. The only one that can be held responsible if the game fails is those that make it, not those that refuse to buy it or review it... jeeze!

[Placoderm]

Originally Posted by The General

@Nordmann

What "Income"?! The price has just been dropped to virtually zero! They're practically giving them away! This can only mean one thing.
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You do realise that this means they'll be no more Subsims of any quality for the PC? That's it, it's over! They'll be no competitors of Ubisoft to come along and pick up where they left-off! The console market is just that much more lucrative, all resources for the big software companies will now be targeted upon that. There will NEVER be a decent subsim for a console. I hope the Jackasses who posted bad reviews on Amazon are happy, because SH5 is the last one and the horrible irony is, it's probably the best!

"This can only mean one thing"

Yes, That UBISOFT screwed themselves out of thousands of sales and deserve the consequences for their lack of trust in their core customer base. The have nobody to blame but themselves and I, for one, could not care less if they never produce another game if this is what they think of the people who got them where they are today.

They were afraid of PIRATES?!?! Really?!? Heck, Ubisoft have done more financial damage to themselves by their own self-destructive paranoia than if every software pirate on the planet had copied their precious game.

Do you realize that at a 50% reduction in the sales price, they are loosing more money than if 1 out of every 2 potential customers had pirated their game? Add to that the PR nightmare and future losses of sales that will result from their decisions, and it is UBISOFT and nobody else who is to blame for this failure in their sales.

As for the whiners who are saying that if we do not kiss the figurative behind of Ubisoft or else we will never get another submarine simulation? Get real...we do NOT have a submarine simulation with SH5, we have a very pretty and graphically intense ARCADE experinece...but not a simulation. If there were a Silent Hunter 6, do you really think it would be any different? Again, ...get real.

Before Silent Hunter there was Aces of the Deep...and folks lamented the loss of their beloved Aces. Before Aces of the Deep we had Silent Service...and people cried that they could not run Aces on their comuters and begged for Microsoft to continue developing Silent Service. I guarantee you that after Silent Hunter sinks to the briny deep there will be something to fill the gap it leaves, and maybe...just maybe...it will take the collapse of the SH franchise to bring that opportunity to light. History has shown that whatever follows will likely be better than anything that came before.

Do I want Silent Hunter to die? NO, not at all...but if it does it will not be due to anything but Ubisoft's own lack of focus and abandonment of it's previously very loyal customer base.


"...They'll be no competitors of Ubisoft to come along and pick up where they left-off"

Oh Really? Exactly what competitors do they have now? Perhaps with a publishing giant like Ubisoft out of the picture, an independant development house can finally compete and produce something made by enthusiasts, for enthusiasts. (Eagle studios would never have been able to make Jutland if the Great Naval Battles franchise were still in the way...)


"...because SH5 is the last one and the horrible irony is, it's probably the best!"

Graphically, yes. It is gorgeous. The modeling is beautifully done and the ocean simulation is the best ever attempted, bar none. Historically though, not even close. Silent Hunter 5 is to historical simulations what Enigma Rising Tide was...except that Enigma at least understood that it was in an historical alternate reality. Silent Hunter pretends just the opposite.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Easy Tiger

Thanks Nordmann, probably going to buy this now - looks like holding out was worth it

You're welcome mate, I might just do the same thing.

Originally Posted by Justy

Are you for real?

Unfortunately, in his own twisted way. Sadly, we're seeing a lot more of this kind of thing on here these days. If you don't agree with them, or they assume that you don't agree with them, then they attack you with personal insults. I suppose it only goes to highlight the childishness of these people.

Originally Posted by Justy

Why do you have to insult Nordmann?

Because he's insecure, and assumed that this thread and my subsequent posts were demonising his beloved game, when in fact they were quite the opposite. It also goes to prove that the art of discussion is lost on some people, goodness knows why they visit a forum in the first place!