Is sinking a neutral bad for your health?

CTaardvark · 03-22-10, 06:12 PM

Umm. I appear to have sunk a neutral ship. Completely by accident you understand. It jumped out from behind a tree whilst I was conducting a test firing......twice. Am I to expect bad things to happen to me when I get back home?

Capt. Morgan · 03-22-10, 06:32 PM

Was it an un-armed American passenger liner chocked full of prominent citizens

, or an Albanian collier

?

IIRC, you'll lose the same amount of renown that you would have gained if it had belonged to a belligerent... unless it was a hospital ship - then you usually lose your career.

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 03:27 AM

3rd Nov 1939

I torpedoed a Romanian merchant in the darkness last night thinking it was French.My advice is screw em!,if they want to sail in enemy waters without their lights on they can expect to be attacked just like an enemy would.I would say though to be more cautious in friendly waters

The answer to your question is yes,it CAN be damaging to your health sometimes,usually resulting in extreme hair loss.

sharkbit · 03-23-10, 08:25 AM

Just doctor the logs and deny everything.

You'll lose some renown, but that is it. I've been tossing around doctoring some files to take away or reduce the renown hit for sinking a neutral(of course I've never, ever done it, no siree, not me. Nope......ok maybe just once.

).

Beats sinking a friendly or a hospital ship. Then you will take a big renown hit.

One historical note that I recently read about was that Reinhard Hardegan(U-123) sank a neutral Portugese ship in one of his early patrols(before Operation Drumbeat to the American coast). Doenitz had him alter his log book after he returned. He did, but it was pretty sloppy and torpedo firing records were never changed. It wouldn't have taken much to see through the falsification.
This was only the second time that a log book was "officially" ordered altered. The first being after U-30(?) torpedoed and sank the Athenia in 1939.

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

I've been tossing around doctoring some files to take away or reduce the renown hit for sinking a neutral(of course I've never, ever done it, no siree, not me. Nope......ok maybe just once.

).

A long time ago I changed the Basic.cfg so I get 0 renown for sinking neutrals. That way I don't get punished, but neither do I get rewarded.

That said, I have managed to never sink a neutral ship.

Jimbuna · 03-23-10, 03:06 PM

I hear the Eastern Front is cold at this time of the year.

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 03:10 PM

I am going to do a Russian campaign Jim if I survive the war in this campaign.I'll teach them Ruskies a lesson!

Ive always wanted to ravage the arctic routes,dont ask me why,it may be in my blood.

frau kaleun · 03-23-10, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I'll teach them Ruskies a lesson!

That's what Napoleon said.

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 03:18 PM

I aint Napoleon

Sailor Steve · 03-23-10, 03:19 PM

Neither was Napoleon.

Jimbuna · 03-23-10, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I am going to do a Russian campaign Jim if I survive the war in this campaign.I'll teach them Ruskies a lesson!

Ive always wanted to ravage the arctic routes,dont ask me why,it may be in my blood.

SINK EM ALL!!

Let me know if you bump into my old man...he was around them parts a couple of times.

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Neither was Napoleon.

I know mate,he was a stinking yellow belly that thought he could conquer the world,thats before he screwed with the English and we sent him packing onto some remote island called Elba

Paul Riley · 03-23-10, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

SINK EM ALL!!

Let me know if you bump into my old man...he was around them parts a couple of times.

Nice one,bet he was a tough old salt battling it out up there

Was he a merchant sailor?

KL-alfman · 03-23-10, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Riley

I know mate,he was a stinking yellow belly that thought he could conquer the world,thats before he screwed with the English and we sent him packing onto some remote island called Elba

from Elba he could come back though.
should've been sent to St.Helens sooner, imo.

Paul Riley · 03-24-10, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by KL-alfman

from Elba he could come back though.
should've been sent to St.Helens sooner, imo.

03-22-10, 06:12 PM	#1
CTaardvark Watch Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Horsham, UK. Posts: 26 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Is sinking a neutral bad for your health? Umm. I appear to have sunk a neutral ship. Completely by accident you understand. It jumped out from behind a tree whilst I was conducting a test firing......twice. Am I to expect bad things to happen to me when I get back home?

03-22-10, 06:32 PM	#2
Capt. Morgan Commander Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Just east of the west coast. Posts: 463 Downloads: 423 Uploads: 0	Was it an un-armed American passenger liner chocked full of prominent citizens, or an Albanian collier? IIRC, you'll lose the same amount of renown that you would have gained if it had belonged to a belligerent... unless it was a hospital ship - then you usually lose your career. __________________ There are no great men, only great challenges that ordinary men are forced by circumstances to meet. -- Admiral William Halsey Last edited by Capt. Morgan; 03-22-10 at 06:48 PM.

03-23-10, 03:27 AM	#3
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	3rd Nov 1939 I torpedoed a Romanian merchant in the darkness last night thinking it was French.My advice is screw em!,if they want to sail in enemy waters without their lights on they can expect to be attacked just like an enemy would.I would say though to be more cautious in friendly waters The answer to your question is yes,it CAN be damaging to your health sometimes,usually resulting in extreme hair loss. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

03-23-10, 08:25 AM	#4
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	Just doctor the logs and deny everything. You'll lose some renown, but that is it. I've been tossing around doctoring some files to take away or reduce the renown hit for sinking a neutral(of course I've never, ever done it, no siree, not me. Nope......ok maybe just once. ). Beats sinking a friendly or a hospital ship. Then you will take a big renown hit. One historical note that I recently read about was that Reinhard Hardegan(U-123) sank a neutral Portugese ship in one of his early patrols(before Operation Drumbeat to the American coast). Doenitz had him alter his log book after he returned. He did, but it was pretty sloppy and torpedo firing records were never changed. It wouldn't have taken much to see through the falsification. This was only the second time that a log book was "officially" ordered altered. The first being after U-30(?) torpedoed and sank the Athenia in 1939. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

03-23-10, 03:06 PM	#6
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,526 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I hear the Eastern Front is cold at this time of the year. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

03-23-10, 03:10 PM	#7
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I am going to do a Russian campaign Jim if I survive the war in this campaign.I'll teach them Ruskies a lesson! Ive always wanted to ravage the arctic routes,dont ask me why,it may be in my blood. __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

03-23-10, 03:18 PM	#9
Paul Riley Ocean Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sheffield, England Posts: 2,679 Downloads: 165 Uploads: 0	I aint Napoleon __________________ Best Patrol: 10 merchants + HMS Nelson for 68.056 Tonnes

03-23-10, 03:19 PM	#10
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Neither was Napoleon. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo