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Old 03-20-10, 01:45 AM   #1
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This crap of always on is going to kill the PC game industry. No console has that requirement and neither does steam. Yet they are both relatively effective DRM systems.

Microsoft must be loving this. Their next system already is going to have Natal built in and have some sort of ATI graphics that puts even a 5870 to shame. Who is going to want to spend 700+ on a gaming computer to compete?
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Old 03-20-10, 09:30 AM   #2
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This crap of always on is going to kill the PC game industry. No console has that requirement and neither does steam. Yet they are both relatively effective DRM systems.

Microsoft must be loving this. Their next system already is going to have Natal built in and have some sort of ATI graphics that puts even a 5870 to shame. Who is going to want to spend 700+ on a gaming computer to compete?
Consoles are never going to appeal to the harcore sim crowd until they start to offer support for hundreds of keystroke commands and mods. Unless they ship flawless out of the box.

Personally, there aren't too many console games out there I'd be interested in. That's not to say there aren't some incredible ones.
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Old 03-20-10, 10:02 AM   #3
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Consoles are never going to appeal to the harcore sim crowd until they start to offer support for hundreds of keystroke commands and mods. Unless they ship flawless out of the box.

Personally, there aren't too many console games out there I'd be interested in. That's not to say there aren't some incredible ones.
Not to mention the limited abilities of these consoles, which are years behind PCs hardware wise. Just look at any side by side comparison of a PC and a console game, the console game looks outdated.

Imagine a sim like SH5 on a console, it barely runs on some people's computers!
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Old 03-20-10, 12:32 PM   #4
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Big companies pulling out the PC space is not bad news.

Most of the great games of these last years have come from second tier european publishers (ie Jowood) or indie developers.

It's incredible how these games, despite much less resources available and a looser development process, ends up with fewer bugs and better support!
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Old 03-20-10, 03:28 PM   #5
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Further emphasising this...
EA and it also looks like UBI.. seem to be driven by economic forces (accountants and shareholders) which/who avariably want the best bang for their buck. This is typical of the technonolgy industry, where the 'financials' will scre.w it up completely.. opening a market for another generation of decent developers. These developers will hold their own for a while until succoming to the 'accountants' again.

Thankfully so far, Oleg and 1C are a break from this norm (so far) with the IL2 series and upcoming BoB - But there is still a opening in the sea warfare game market for someone like Oleg/1C, to bring out a 'working' game.


I think the ideal time to buy is in the early stages, for example SH3, and any follow on's sh4, sh5 are just degrades of the original.


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Old 03-20-10, 04:47 PM   #6
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BoB? Please tell me that there is going to be a new Battle of Britain/Aces/Air War over Europe type title with the realism and detail of IL2 coming? That would be awesome news.
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Old 03-20-10, 06:01 PM   #7
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Let's think the unthinkable.

A company is not dedicated to pure greed and making money, but to just pay their employees, maybe better next year, and NOT sell shares !
Just keep being a vital and healthy small company, with good ideas, and a concept of improving a special kind of software.

Just go on, build slowly up from a vital and healthy basis substance, maybe hire one or two more new idealistic employees with fresh ideas a year, if at all.
Make a million or two in your whole life, rather than go for 4 millions a year for me as the manager.

OK, now i'm a 65-year-old chief of such a company, i have two houses , several cars, one yacht, a few kids, and a nice dedicated company. What the hell do i need some 20 millions more ? Do i think i can take the money into my grave ? Reputation ?!
Selling shares to grow BIG and become dependent on *******ing share holders or THEIR interests ? Why. THE. *******. ??!

Ah, i hear the people shout "communism", "socialism" blah burp bloop.
But it isnt't. It just is good old capitalism remaining reasonable, not gone wild, not locust cap., and to hell with share holders.

Only an idea,
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Old 03-20-10, 06:14 PM   #8
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Big companies pulling out the PC space is not bad news.

Most of the great games of these last years have come from second tier european publishers (ie Jowood) or indie developers.

It's incredible how these games, despite much less resources available and a looser development process, ends up with fewer bugs and better support!
Agreed. Some of the best games I own are not made by mainstream developers/publishers. Who cares if 'Big Moneybags Ltd' moves out of the PC market? At least they won't be buying the small development teams, who actually make decent games, instead of the same old carbon copy rubbish!

In any case, PC gaming is not dead, nowhere close. People have been making such claims for the past 10 years, and I have yet to see it happen. Yes, perhaps there are not as many good games as there used to be, but then again, that greatly depends on your idea of 'good'.

Consoles have no where near the same versatility, nor can they provide the same power; console games are generally for the casual gamer, and the design shows this to be the case. I should know, I used to be a console owner (NES, SNES, N-64, PS, PS2), and I would go through a game a week. That is one of the reasons I made the switch to PC games, not only do they look and play better, they have a lot more longevity.

I don't believe PC gaming will die, perhaps it will change, perhaps it will become more focused, but there's plenty of room for other companies to move in, if the current market leaders move out.
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