Command & Conquer 4 to Require Constant Internet Connection

Arclight · 03-18-10, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Raptor1

This is not about unfinished games, this is about idiotic game design, which EA is a master of.

I thought that was idiotic marketing.

Raptor1 · 03-19-10, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

I thought that was idiotic marketing.

That too...

I meant the general decline of the game industry, not this thread specifically.

HunterICX · 03-19-10, 04:44 AM

The DRM is the least of the problems I have with the post-westwood C&C games.

when EA had Westwood it went downhill and when EA shut Westwood down it hitted rock bottom.

imo, the games after RA2 do not deserve to carry the title of the franchise.
it's if you ask me a totally different game aimed at a completly different audience then the ones that played the C&C series from the beginning at least to me it felt it didn't do justice to the previous titles of the serie.

HunterICX

Dowly · 03-19-10, 07:42 AM

I liked the last C&C (3 I think it was). The gameplay was pretty much the same as in the older games, with the exception of some new tactical stuff (like the glider guys for NOD, awesome asset). The story was hastily put together which sucked, as it could've been very good.

The Scrin were something I first hated, but then I started to think about it a bit and IMHO it fits well to the story where the people have started to learn ways to contain the tiberium and suddenly BANG you got a new tiberium related threat in the form of the Scrin.

This new one seems to follow the trend of fast-play RTS' with no base building and resource gathering (well there is but it's kinda stoooopid). Clearly it's aimed for online play as was proved by releasing MP only beta and now this new DRM. And as I don't play RTS' online, the heck with them.

Just too bad the genre is dying, WH40k went titties up with Dawn of War II, never liked Starcraft so SC2 doesn't appeal to me (and it seems to be heavily MP oriented). If just the smaller game developers would have the funding and a good publisher to really finish their games this genre would do good.

Camaero · 03-19-10, 01:20 PM

Bad news that EA has started doing this... very bad news.

Raptor1 · 03-20-10, 11:44 AM

Homeworld is still one of my favourite RTS games ever, it had great gameplay, really good (and creepy) music and atmosphere, great story, and really well-made cutscenes.

Though those things that dragged off your capital ships and ate them up in one of the last missions are some of the most annoying enemies ever.

Wish they'd make another one...

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Originally Posted by Camaero

Bad news that EA has started doing this... very bad news.

Not really, they almost never release good games anymore anyway.

CaptainHaplo · 03-20-10, 12:26 PM

The expanding map in SC was one thing that took getting used to. On the flip side, it introduced a component that had not been seen before - so adaptation was necessary.

I just wrote a SC2 review posted it here - and I have to recommend that if your a SERIOUS rts gamer - avoid it. SC and its expansion were much better. On the other hand, if your a console junkie who only plays the rush - then SC2 will be great for you.

Camaero · 03-19-10, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I liked the last C&C (3 I think it was). The gameplay was pretty much the same as in the older games, with the exception of some new tactical stuff (like the glider guys for NOD, awesome asset). The story was hastily put together which sucked, as it could've been very good.

The Scrin were something I first hated, but then I started to think about it a bit and IMHO it fits well to the story where the people have started to learn ways to contain the tiberium and suddenly BANG you got a new tiberium related threat in the form of the Scrin.

This new one seems to follow the trend of fast-play RTS' with no base building and resource gathering (well there is but it's kinda stoooopid). Clearly it's aimed for online play as was proved by releasing MP only beta and now this new DRM. And as I don't play RTS' online, the heck with them.

Just too bad the genre is dying, WH40k went titties up with Dawn of War II, never liked Starcraft so SC2 doesn't appeal to me (and it seems to be heavily MP oriented). If just the smaller game developers would have the funding and a good publisher to really finish their games this genre would do good.

I'm curious if you have played Sins of a Solar Empire?

Dowly · 03-20-10, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaero

I'm curious if you have played Sins of a Solar Empire?

Can't say I have. Not after Homeworld kept me screaming for mercy in some of the missions have I touched another space-RTS.

Arclight · 03-20-10, 07:13 AM

Homeworld 1&2 are great, still waiting for Relic to do another one.

Ever tried Supreme Commander? Should be similar to Total Annihilation, SupCom2 more so. (can't say for certain as I never played TA. Yes, I know, I'm a heretic)

Nordmann · 03-20-10, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Camaero

I'm curious if you have played Sins of a Solar Empire?

An excellent game, with the added bonus of absolutely no DRM. If anyone has yet to try it, I suggest you do so with all haste.

Dowly · 03-24-10, 03:16 PM

Whoever's interested in just the story:
http://www.youtube.com/user/chatthekiller#g/p

Raptor1 · 03-24-10, 03:38 PM

Not sure I want it to be ruined completely...

03-19-10, 04:44 AM	#3
HunterICX Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2006 Location: Malaga, España Posts: 10,750 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	The DRM is the least of the problems I have with the post-westwood C&C games. when EA had Westwood it went downhill and when EA shut Westwood down it hitted rock bottom. imo, the games after RA2 do not deserve to carry the title of the franchise. it's if you ask me a totally different game aimed at a completly different audience then the ones that played the C&C series from the beginning at least to me it felt it didn't do justice to the previous titles of the serie. HunterICX __________________

03-19-10, 01:20 PM	#5
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Bad news that EA has started doing this... very bad news. __________________

03-20-10, 12:26 PM	#7
CaptainHaplo Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 4,405 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	The expanding map in SC was one thing that took getting used to. On the flip side, it introduced a component that had not been seen before - so adaptation was necessary. I just wrote a SC2 review posted it here - and I have to recommend that if your a SERIOUS rts gamer - avoid it. SC and its expansion were much better. On the other hand, if your a console junkie who only plays the rush - then SC2 will be great for you. __________________ Good Hunting! Captain Haplo

03-20-10, 07:13 AM	#10
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Homeworld 1&2 are great, still waiting for Relic to do another one. Ever tried Supreme Commander? Should be similar to Total Annihilation, SupCom2 more so. (can't say for certain as I never played TA. Yes, I know, I'm a heretic) __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-24-10, 03:38 PM	#13
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	Not sure I want it to be ruined completely... __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

03-19-10, 07:42 AM	#4
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I liked the last C&C (3 I think it was). The gameplay was pretty much the same as in the older games, with the exception of some new tactical stuff (like the glider guys for NOD, awesome asset). The story was hastily put together which sucked, as it could've been very good. The Scrin were something I first hated, but then I started to think about it a bit and IMHO it fits well to the story where the people have started to learn ways to contain the tiberium and suddenly BANG you got a new tiberium related threat in the form of the Scrin. This new one seems to follow the trend of fast-play RTS' with no base building and resource gathering (well there is but it's kinda stoooopid). Clearly it's aimed for online play as was proved by releasing MP only beta and now this new DRM. And as I don't play RTS' online, the heck with them. Just too bad the genre is dying, WH40k went titties up with Dawn of War II, never liked Starcraft so SC2 doesn't appeal to me (and it seems to be heavily MP oriented). If just the smaller game developers would have the funding and a good publisher to really finish their games this genre would do good.

03-24-10, 03:16 PM	#12
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,056 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Whoever's interested in just the story: http://www.youtube.com/user/chatthekiller#g/p