My new SHIII Computer arrived today!

[Gilbou]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

A note about AF and AA,regardless of how powerful the graphics card the game STILL must fully support those graphics options,otherwise you can still run into problems,not so much with performance but with artefacts and other glitches,but I personally doubt it in this case.I think there has been a thread in the past about SH3 having problems rendering AF properly,someone will have to clarify on this though.
On my card I have a special graphics option called 'super sampling' ,and this enhances transparency effects,with no apparent slowdown,other than the usual 'near port' fps hits everyone gets.

Actually I have the following settings in my nvidia control panel
about sh3.exe :

Anisotropic : forced x16
(you can force anisotropic filtering to any image, this includes games that do NO anti aliasing at all)

Antialiasing - Gamma Correction : on
(improves color quality and reduction of jaggedness)

Antialiasing : forced x16xQ
(the xQ provides better image quality at a small performance cost)
Antialiasing:Transparency : Application controlled
(not really used in SH3)

Maximum pre-rendered frames : forced 3

Multi-display : forced single display
(I got 4 screens but only use one while playing. I need to force
this to get max performance from display being used when playing)

Texture filtering : Quality

Triple buffering : forced off (I dont use vsync, so triple buffering
does nothing)

While vertical sync turned off can and does produce tearing in
game when scrolling horizontally (top portion of screen being
out of alignment with botton part) you get more FPS anytime
with vert sync turned off.

Works fine, I get no artefacts.

Using a Nvidia 9800 GTX+ 512 Mb from Club 3d

[Paul Riley]

Of course,you can force AA and AF,but what I was saying was SOME games produce errors if they don't support it.The same applies to refresh rates for your monitor,if it is rated for 60hz and you force 70hz you COULD encounter problems,but this is not guaranteed.
If you max out your game settings and encounter no problems then thats great for you.

[Gilbou]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Of course,you can force AA and AF,but what I was saying was SOME games produce errors if they don't support it.The same applies to refresh rates for your monitor,if it is rated for 60hz and you force 70hz you COULD encounter problems,but this is not guaranteed.
If you max out your game settings and encounter no problems then thats great for you.

Yeap. All my LCD screens say best for them is 60 Hz and I use them
at 75 Hz. And I do see the difference.

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Gilbou

Yeap. All my LCD screens say best for them is 60 Hz and I use them
at 75 Hz. And I do see the difference.

I use my LCD at 60hz (recommended value) but would like to set it to 70hz,it could eliminate the odd flicker you sometimes see with LCD screens.However,when I enable 70hz the screen size reverts back to what 800x600 used to look like *yuck!*

[Gilbou]

Yes that happens. But that could be more a graphic card problem
than screen. A screen that can display x * y resolution can usually
do so at various frequencies with absolutely no change in resolution,
because it's just a matter of refresh frequency and available bandwith
on the link between the graphic card, and screen.

If you have to lower resolution as frequency of refresh goes up,
it is because of the graphic card, and its RAMDAC frequency.

Here are my settings :

Resolution : 1280 x 1024
In game : 1280 x 1024 (using patch for XP)
Anisotropic filtering : 16x
Antialiasing - Gamma correction : On
Antialiasing - Mode : Override any application setting
Antialiasing - Setting : 16xQ
Antialiasing - Transparency : Off
Maximum pre-rendered frames : 3
Multi-display/mixed-GPU acceleration : Single display
Texture filtering - Anisotropic sample optimization : Off
Texture filtering - Negative LOD bias : Clamp
Texture filtering - Quality : High Quality
Texture filtering - Trilinear optimization : On
Threaded optimization : Auto
Triple buffering : Off
Vertical sync : Force off

Drivers : 196.21
Card : Club 3D Geforce 9800GTX+
Direct X upgraded using DirectXX 11 installer
(installs a more recent DirectX 9 version than
9.0c installer)

I took a few screenshots. I don't see many jaggies on screen,
sometimes it does happen but only at some very high angles
of sea but not always (so it might be a rendering bug).

FPS is around 40 to 50/60 in harbors
Outside it's between 100-120 all the time
And it goes down to 50-60 when I am seeing a ship explode
and there are many explosions (this is the most sensible loss
of FPS I can see, when ships explodes and balls of flames
rise up in the air).

Note : in my screenshots, artefacts appear. They don't in the game
which looks fine. Particules appear fine with water, but never on
screenshots (the screenshot saves the picture from the game to
disk before some graphic stuff is added to the picture like particule
rendering and transparency settings and various stuff).

I should try to do screenshots using a real tool and not the integrated
game one. I got Fraps but it makes the game crash when I try to
use it (got the latest version, licensed).

Good luck, and happy SH3ing, with the new machine.

[StarLion45]

If you have Gammacorrection " On"

the sun will look terrible , the sun halo is not there ,
the sun look like a golfball

Turn gammacorrection off , and you have a beautyful shining sun

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by StarLion45

If you have Gammacorrection " On"

the sun will look terrible , the sun halo is not there ,
the sun look like a golfball

Turn gammacorrection off , and you have a beautyful shining sun

Didnt know that,not sure if I have GC enabled,will check later.Thanks for the tip

[maillemaker]

Well, I got SHIII running last night (did a download from Direct2Drive) and it installed under Windows 7 with no problem.

However, my LCD backlight has died!

Steve

[Paul Riley]

Originally Posted by Paul Riley

Didnt know that,not sure if I have GC enabled,will check later.Thanks for the tip

Gamma correction,now would that be a setting within the AGP card or within SH3 files somewhere?

Thanks.

[YukonJack_AK]

Originally Posted by Gilbou

Actually I have the following settings in my nvidia control panel
about sh3.exe :

Antialiasing : forced x16xQ
(the xQ provides better image quality at a small performance cost)
Antialiasing:Transparency : Application controlled
(not really used in SH3)

Just out of curiosity... How are you able to get AA at 16x??? All I get is a black screen when I set AA to anything greater than 2x... And I really wanted to be rid of those jaggies too...

[Gilbou]

I'm using x16xQ with SH3
I don't see any problems but I'm not sure it really works because
sometimes I see jaggies on the far sea horizon.

Perhaps it even doesnt work at all