What do you think about the destroyer AI?

Ducimus · 03-17-10, 03:43 PM

>>rather than relying on boosting their sensors.

That would be ideal. My way of making the ai more "intelligent" is old school and needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.

oscar19681 · 03-17-10, 06:51 PM

The destroyers also seem to reluctant to ping me even though they are passing over me direcly. I dont really want to boost there sensors because i,m affraid that would unbalance the realism. I just want them to behave as much as possible in real life. One more thing i noticed is that when my scope is spotted my merchents the destoyers do check it out and sometimes they dont. And if they do they dont charge to my scope like in sh-3 but they do so at 2 knots or so.

Task Force · 03-17-10, 07:03 PM

Never was attacked by a DD, sailed right next to them and waved HI.

Nafod81 · 03-17-10, 08:33 PM

Usually they scatter and failing to locate me depth charge random space. Unfortuantely they sometimes lock onto my course changes offset by a few kilometers, which is fine provided there is a landmass nearby. Of course if this lock is a mere few meters it's trouble.

oscar19681 · 03-19-10, 12:52 PM

I attacked a tanker today and it seems like he radio,s for help. So there is an escort about 4000 meters out but i am able to finish of the tanker with me deck-gun. The destoryer fires some shells at me but they miss. I deside to crash dive but go to peri depth to see what he does and the destoyer just happily keeps 2 to 4 knots or so. He doesnt even come to my KNOWN position!!. I understand its 1940 and i dont get the das boot moments all the time. But this is just stupid! Its starting to get boring sinking ships because nor the royal airforce or the royal navy try there best to stop me doing so. Even if the odds are in there own favor!

Galanti · 03-19-10, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

I attacked a tanker today and it seems like he radio,s for help. So there is an escort about 4000 meters out but i am able to finish of the tanker with me deck-gun.

I've had this happen too. I'm starting to wonder if destroyers actually get spawned at a certain radius when a ship calls for help. That would be pretty lame and predictable.

bigboywooly · 03-19-10, 01:18 PM

Have been pinged many times
Even DCd
But they are also stoopid
Had 4 sailing in a box formation so positioned myself inbetween the 2 columns
Sank the lead of each with stern and bow then the second with the bow
Then had to move position to hit the rear column second ship with the bow
NOT ONCE did they alter from course or speed
Result 4 sunk DDs

Sometimes in a convoy they wont react to sinkings
Others they will try to find you - hence the DCings

Maybe as a result of crew experience but some are so dumb

Ducimus · 03-17-10, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by oscar19681

The destroyers also seem to reluctant to ping me even though they are passing over me direcly.

Two leading reasons for that are:

a.) Thermal layers are active when they shouldn't be.

b.) First two active sonars only have a 100 degree max elevation. That means they loose you at much shallower depths.

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I dont really want to boost there sensors because i,m affraid that would unbalance the realism.

How do you define realism? By god this is the "Atlantik!" Das boot das boot! No wussy Jap ASW here! Deeper Chief! Deeper god dammit! Yes Deeper still My god, 280 meters and she's still in one piece! Quick, bring in some timbers for shoring!

Das boot experience is what's wanted right?

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I just want them to behave as much as possible in real life

If your looking for exacting real life behavior, that might be awhile. Nigesis may be able to get you there. In the meantime, you got the "close enough" option.

03-17-10, 06:51 PM	#2
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	The destroyers also seem to reluctant to ping me even though they are passing over me direcly. I dont really want to boost there sensors because i,m affraid that would unbalance the realism. I just want them to behave as much as possible in real life. One more thing i noticed is that when my scope is spotted my merchents the destoyers do check it out and sometimes they dont. And if they do they dont charge to my scope like in sh-3 but they do so at 2 knots or so. __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

03-17-10, 07:03 PM	#3
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Never was attacked by a DD, sailed right next to them and waved HI. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

03-19-10, 12:52 PM	#5
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	I attacked a tanker today and it seems like he radio,s for help. So there is an escort about 4000 meters out but i am able to finish of the tanker with me deck-gun. The destoryer fires some shells at me but they miss. I deside to crash dive but go to peri depth to see what he does and the destoyer just happily keeps 2 to 4 knots or so. He doesnt even come to my KNOWN position!!. I understand its 1940 and i dont get the das boot moments all the time. But this is just stupid! Its starting to get boring sinking ships because nor the royal airforce or the royal navy try there best to stop me doing so. Even if the odds are in there own favor! __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

03-19-10, 01:18 PM	#7
bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Have been pinged many times Even DCd But they are also stoopid Had 4 sailing in a box formation so positioned myself inbetween the 2 columns Sank the lead of each with stern and bow then the second with the bow Then had to move position to hit the rear column second ship with the bow NOT ONCE did they alter from course or speed Result 4 sunk DDs Sometimes in a convoy they wont react to sinkings Others they will try to find you - hence the DCings Maybe as a result of crew experience but some are so dumb __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

03-17-10, 03:43 PM	#1
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	>>rather than relying on boosting their sensors. That would be ideal. My way of making the ai more "intelligent" is old school and needs to go the way of the dinosaurs.

03-17-10, 08:33 PM	#4
Nafod81 Loader Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Saint Louis MO Posts: 87 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	Usually they scatter and failing to locate me depth charge random space. Unfortuantely they sometimes lock onto my course changes offset by a few kilometers, which is fine provided there is a landmass nearby. Of course if this lock is a mere few meters it's trouble.