Public statement against DRM (yet not SH5)

[martes86]

Originally Posted by Dowly

Sorry, but making something official doesn't mean jack ****. Especially when it comes from someone (and I mean communities in general, not the 24th) that doesn't have the power to change anything or in other words put pressure to a company like Ubi.

As long as Ubi has paying customers from it's bigger selling titles, the subsim community very little to say about how Ubi runs things. We are "expendable".

I'd like to think that things are a little brighter than that. They may not care about individuals, but whole nodes of players, communities, complaining all at once against this, it must have some effect, some repercussions, how could it be possible that a whole group of people positioned against it, and nothing happens?

Even better... do you really think that if Subsim officially positioned against DRM (and as an extention, the whole community or most of it), that it wouldn't make any difference? The thing of good-press/bad-press doesn't matter anything these days? Just getting money does? I doubt it in this case (maybe true in others with a little less media attention). Sadly, Subsim is far from doing that (I understand that Subsim has a stand to keep), so I guess we'll never know.

Originally Posted by Nordmann

We might have been able to do something about it, if people could only have restrained themselves from buying the damned game. But no, for all the complaints, they go like lambs to the slaughter.

Ubi must be having a good laugh at our expense (well, your expense, I didn't buy it), because they know that they can release a half finished product, with ridiculous restrictions, and their loyal fans will go right ahead and buy it regardless.

Well, there's other ways to show disagreement... plain boycott isn't the only way to do things (I find it too extreme a measure), and it might actually be the killing shot to future subsim developments. And, anyways, it seems like refunds are up to date these days, so maybe income is much lower than initially expected.

Cheers

[thyro]

Originally Posted by martes86

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Well, there's other ways to show disagreement... plain boycott isn't the only way to do things (I find it too extreme a measure), and it might actually be the killing shot to future subsim developments. And, anyways, it seems like refunds are up to date these days, so maybe income is much lower than initially expected.

Cheers

Though!

Sell me something I want to buy not something you want to sell.

I'm their customer not UBI is my customer. And as customer I do not surrender my information and rights for free in name of piracy. If are hackers doing the job then my contratulations to them. But I suspect that is the shear incompetence of UBI on providing the service and easily blaming hackers/pirates for going fast to a fail!

I'm sorry but I have no pity on UBI regarding that and if they back track and sell a game rather than rubish the I'll be happy to buy it.

[thyro]

Originally Posted by martes86

I'd like to think that things are a little brighter than that. They may not care about individuals, but whole nodes of players, communities, complaining all at once against this, it must have some effect, some repercussions, how could it be possible that a whole group of people positioned against it, and nothing happens?
Cheers

They do not care about individuals and they do not care about fanclubs; because this DRM matter has been well discussed even UBI had not released a preview neither a beta game for testers. So UBI ignored everything and everyone so the only thing they listen is money. Therefore hit hard on money, and I as customer do my bit because I dont think that their product named SH5 is worth the money under this conditions even it was a complete game with all details possible and imaginary.

But unfortunatly apart from the good name series then managed to produce a hell of a rubish by adding all the pointless online restrictions to a game that cannot be played if doesn't existe internent or if internent is intermitent.

A rubish SH5 product that isn't worth its money... UBI must be paying their customers to play SH5 not otherwise.

As I said earlier post... Sell me what I want to buy not what you want to sell!