Looked like a planned attack (Ubisoft servers)

Onkel Neal · 03-13-10, 06:06 PM

Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff.

Letum · 03-13-10, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff.

I doubt it. It's hard to get prosecutions against big companies like Ubisoft.
...oh, wait, you mean...

chaparral02 · 03-13-10, 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Letum

I doubt it. It's hard to get prosecutions against big companies like Ubisoft.

Hartmann · 03-13-10, 06:55 PM

It´s the perfect excuse for UBI... We are under attack !!

....

....but we use a very small server to save money and banwith for another games and we are not interested in SH players and no mention about traffic and thousand savegames up and down

janh · 03-13-10, 06:45 PM

If those guys would be smart enough to see that the long term damage is to their own disadvantage. But some people never learn from history, even if it repeats itself every year (like the DRM/cracking race).

I would have liked them to ignore SHV entirely, not even cracking it. Then the sales would have told us a little about (casual and old) customers' tolerance of OSP/DRM and the importance of product state for their buying decision. It simply is just totally nuts what they are doing now. I wonder whether they all went to school in Rhode Island.

Fincuan · 03-13-10, 06:50 PM

Pretty high-tech stuff. Planning the attack in Piratebay's comments and executing it using PING and it actually works?

Juliano · 03-13-10, 07:03 PM

I´m just wondering...
How many "pingers" one must gather to get those kind of server down?

Wow, I must say I´m quite impressed

I´m guessing the pirates wont stop until UBI drops DRM or start legal procedures against them

Mud · 03-13-10, 07:09 PM

Thousands of people wanna play and 5 pingers prevent that, do I miss something ?

http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7817/ddosf.jpg

Mud

JScones · 03-13-10, 07:09 PM

Yeah, if a bunch of guys reading a thread somewhere can "ping" Ubisoft to a halt (unless, of course, the collective readership of said thread is greater than the entire Subsim community), then, yeah, it looks like there'll be a lot of problem times ahead for Ubisoft...

Letum · 03-13-10, 07:14 PM

It's not like there isn't looooads of simple software products about that can
be installed on a server to prevent DOS attacks.

Even some domestic anti-virus packets have it.

Mondaiji · 03-13-10, 07:32 PM

I bet on hoax .. but its possible that their network admin is a complete moron

Juliano · 03-13-10, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Mondaiji

I bet on hoax .. but its possible that their network admin is a complete moron

I believe that´s the fact.
UBI is making some weird excuses if the problem is lack of competence by their part. Next time they will put the blame on something else like "the janitor tripped on the power cable and unplugged the server by accident"?

Hartmann · 03-13-10, 07:44 PM

Perhaps they are moving the server from one unsafe place to a better one

gimpy117 · 03-14-10, 12:11 PM

with the right software you can have one computer sending many pings a second to a server. add in a few more computers and the job is done.

The Enigma · 03-14-10, 12:17 PM

@gimpy117

Well, according to that screen shot they used the sophisticated batch file approach.

03-13-10, 06:06 PM	#1
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Hopefully some people will see prison time for this kind of stuff. __________________ SUBSIM - 26 Years on the Web

03-13-10, 06:55 PM	#4
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	It´s the perfect excuse for UBI... We are under attack !! .... ....but we use a very small server to save money and banwith for another games and we are not interested in SH players and no mention about traffic and thousand savegames up and down __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-13-10, 06:45 PM	#5
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	If those guys would be smart enough to see that the long term damage is to their own disadvantage. But some people never learn from history, even if it repeats itself every year (like the DRM/cracking race). I would have liked them to ignore SHV entirely, not even cracking it. Then the sales would have told us a little about (casual and old) customers' tolerance of OSP/DRM and the importance of product state for their buying decision. It simply is just totally nuts what they are doing now. I wonder whether they all went to school in Rhode Island. __________________ Scientific facts are not determined by the opinion of the majority, nor by a democratic vote.

03-13-10, 07:09 PM	#8
Mud Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 541 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	Thousands of people wanna play and 5 pingers prevent that, do I miss something ? http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7817/ddosf.jpg Mud __________________

03-13-10, 07:14 PM	#10
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	It's not like there isn't looooads of simple software products about that can be installed on a server to prevent DOS attacks. Even some domestic anti-virus packets have it. __________________

03-13-10, 06:50 PM	#6
Fincuan Admiral Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Suomi, sauna, puukko, perkele Posts: 2,346 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Pretty high-tech stuff. Planning the attack in Piratebay's comments and executing it using PING and it actually works?

03-13-10, 07:03 PM	#7
Juliano Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cruising by you with "EXTREME SPEED" Posts: 101 Downloads: 139 Uploads: 0	I´m just wondering... How many "pingers" one must gather to get those kind of server down? Wow, I must say I´m quite impressed I´m guessing the pirates wont stop until UBI drops DRM or start legal procedures against them

03-13-10, 07:09 PM	#9
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Yeah, if a bunch of guys reading a thread somewhere can "ping" Ubisoft to a halt (unless, of course, the collective readership of said thread is greater than the entire Subsim community), then, yeah, it looks like there'll be a lot of problem times ahead for Ubisoft...

03-13-10, 07:32 PM	#11
Mondaiji Watch Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 18 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I bet on hoax .. but its possible that their network admin is a complete moron

03-13-10, 07:44 PM	#13
Hartmann Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Grid CH 26, Spain ,Barcelona Posts: 1,857 Downloads: 204 Uploads: 0	Perhaps they are moving the server from one unsafe place to a better one __________________ But this ship can't sink!... She is made of iron, sir. I assure you, she can. and she will. It is a mathematical certainty. Strength and honor

03-14-10, 12:11 PM	#14
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	with the right software you can have one computer sending many pings a second to a server. add in a few more computers and the job is done. __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

03-14-10, 12:17 PM	#15
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	@gimpy117 Well, according to that screen shot they used the sophisticated batch file approach. __________________