A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War - Page 5

Spyguy101 · 10-04-09, 05:48 PM

1 in 5. I guess my grandfather was one of the lucky 4.

Bethune · 01-23-10, 03:20 PM

Very cool , i'm really getting into submarines.

Treetop64 · 01-27-10, 08:06 PM

Excellent, excellent post, D.

The technology of the US fleet boats in WWII is what astonishes me the most, particularly that of the TDC. A truly remarkable technological feat. These things were shoe-horned into fleet boats even before Pearl was bombed; the TDC MkI was designed, built, and installed during the mid 1930's!

Truly amazing.

Morpheus · 03-09-10, 03:30 PM

I'm in your fanclub Ducimus

Werekoala · 03-11-10, 09:23 PM

I think the sub that survived 48 hours of depth-charge attack was the USS Seal (I'm reading a book right now that details the experience of one of the crewmen who served on that patrol). SO intense. They had one torpedo in the aft tubes about 1/2 way in before the pressure lodged it in the tube. One of the crewmen somehow managed to shove it in on sheer brute force before the pressure on the outer door could punch into the compartment during the initial dive.

They had charged a convoy that was hugging the coast off on Honshu, fired forward tubes, then dove deep to go under the convoy line to use their aft tubes for a second salvo. When they came up, they found out that there were 5-7 destroyers between the convoy and the shoreline, and so began the "fun".

Going back through the thread, it seems like there are multiple subs who had similar experiences!

Ducimus · 03-11-10, 09:36 PM

What book?

Werekoala · 03-11-10, 09:52 PM

"The Depths of Courage - American Submariners at War with Japan, 1941-1945" by Flint Whitlock and Ron Smith. Got it at Half-Price books for $5.98 hardcover. (Flint Whitlock - is there a more stereotypical action-hero name?)

Next up - "Shinano! - The Sinking of Japan's Secret Supership" by Captain Joseph F. Enright, USN. Half-Price Books, $9.48 hardcover. Details one of the patrols of the USS Archer-Fish, who holds the single-patrol record for tonnage at 72,000 - all from one ship.

Apparently the Shinano was laid down as the third in the Yamato/Mushashi class super-battleships but they converted it to a flat-top in the middle of the war. It was sunk hugging the Japanese coast before it was fully fitted out and ready for service. Hardly sporting.

R4222 · 06-16-10, 07:56 AM

I have found this to be the most complete work on the Pacific Submarine campagin. I read this and was totally hooked on the subject and the period.

As a Brit I can't get my head around being a U-boat skipper.

My Farther was in the Royal Navy on the Carrier HMS Furious so I guess its Allies only for me.

Wilcke · 06-16-10, 09:55 AM

There are quite a few titles about the Silent Service, but this is the way to go for a first read on the campaign. The data in the back is pretty awesome too!

Hooch · 07-19-10, 03:33 AM

Having served on a diesel electric boat not unlike the ones used in silent hunter 4 (look up british o boats though i served on, an aussie one) i can claim an experience little in modern day have.
the experience of having a torpedo hit about 10 feet from where i was working. luckily for me it was dummy torp and it hit the dome protecting the sonar.
scary as hell as you hear it approach then BANG... didn't do much good for my nerves.
I have a lot of respect for the men who served in subs in any of the theatres on any side. it was a difficult and hazerdous as survival wasn't good for a submarine caught by the enemy.
lots of subs where lost around the UK and med to both ships, planes and good old minefields

Sailor Steve · 07-19-10, 09:17 AM

WELCOME ABOARD!

Admiral8Q · 07-19-10, 11:22 PM

Hooch, you served on an O-Class? Nice!

Welcome aboard!

Rrannett · 10-15-10, 10:54 PM

I have been playing submarine sims since Silent Hunter I. Am now on TMO2 and GWX3. Enjoying them immensely! But just today I came upon this thread and I absolutely have to applaud the initial presentation by Ducimus, and the very entertaining followup by the numerous other posters. The modding work that has been performed by you gentlemen (you know who you are) and the intensity that has been displayed by all in these various postings and threads is remarkable. Today I gained a great respect for the men of the Silent Service, and those of you who carry on the spirit on the internet! "Thank you for the Memories" - with apologies to Bob Hope.

Forensicman101 · 10-26-10, 09:43 AM

One of my students sent me a jpeg map showing dates and locations of US landings in the pacific theatre of operations; I've no idea were it came from originally. I find it very handy for working out where the Japanese & Americans are on the map at any given time. (Wouldn't it be good if the terrain held by the two sides was colour coded so players could see at a glance where the enemy territory was?)

He asked if I'd give him extra marks for his next essay, sadly I wasn't able to but he did get my thanks, & I posted some mod files to him!

Link:http://www.filefront.com/user/forensicman

Anthony W. · 05-04-11, 08:50 PM

Remaining tench boats - you forgot the Requin and Thornback

This is an amazing thread.

I have the insane urge to make an amateur film.

If I lived anywhere near a sub, I would go through all the channels and get that done. I love producing.

EDIT: Beginning to write a screenplay as we speak

03-11-10, 09:23 PM	#65
Werekoala Nub Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I think the sub that survived 48 hours of depth-charge attack was the USS Seal (I'm reading a book right now that details the experience of one of the crewmen who served on that patrol). SO intense. They had one torpedo in the aft tubes about 1/2 way in before the pressure lodged it in the tube. One of the crewmen somehow managed to shove it in on sheer brute force before the pressure on the outer door could punch into the compartment during the initial dive. They had charged a convoy that was hugging the coast off on Honshu, fired forward tubes, then dove deep to go under the convoy line to use their aft tubes for a second salvo. When they came up, they found out that there were 5-7 destroyers between the convoy and the shoreline, and so began the "fun". Going back through the thread, it seems like there are multiple subs who had similar experiences! __________________ God made Deck Guns for a Reason

03-11-10, 09:52 PM	#67
Werekoala Nub Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 4 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	"The Depths of Courage - American Submariners at War with Japan, 1941-1945" by Flint Whitlock and Ron Smith. Got it at Half-Price books for $5.98 hardcover. (Flint Whitlock - is there a more stereotypical action-hero name?) Next up - "Shinano! - The Sinking of Japan's Secret Supership" by Captain Joseph F. Enright, USN. Half-Price Books, $9.48 hardcover. Details one of the patrols of the *USS Archer-Fish,* who holds the single-patrol record for tonnage at 72,000 - all from one ship. Apparently the *Shinano* was laid down as the third in the *Yamato/Mushashi* class super-battleships but they converted it to a flat-top in the middle of the war. It was sunk hugging the Japanese coast before it was fully fitted out and ready for service. Hardly sporting. __________________ God made Deck Guns for a Reason

06-16-10, 07:56 AM	#68
R4222 Swabbie Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 14 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	The Best Book on the subject ? I have found this to be the most complete work on the Pacific Submarine campagin. I read this and was totally hooked on the subject and the period. As a Brit I can't get my head around being a U-boat skipper. My Farther was in the Royal Navy on the Carrier HMS Furious so I guess its Allies only for me.

06-16-10, 09:55 AM	#69
Wilcke The Old Man Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,441 Downloads: 234 Uploads: 0	There are quite a few titles about the Silent Service, but this is the way to go for a first read on the campaign. The data in the back is pretty awesome too! __________________ Wilcke **For the best in Fleet Boats go to: Submarine Sim Central. http://forum.kickinbak.com/index.php Check out: A Brief Introduction to the Pacific Submarine War by Ducimus http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=128185 Operation Monsun plus OMEGU, the #1 ATO Solution for SH4! Signature Art by Gunfighter**

07-19-10, 03:33 AM	#70
Hooch Swabbie Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 12 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Diesel Electrics Having served on a diesel electric boat not unlike the ones used in silent hunter 4 (look up british o boats though i served on, an aussie one) i can claim an experience little in modern day have. the experience of having a torpedo hit about 10 feet from where i was working. luckily for me it was dummy torp and it hit the dome protecting the sonar. scary as hell as you hear it approach then BANG... didn't do much good for my nerves. I have a lot of respect for the men who served in subs in any of the theatres on any side. it was a difficult and hazerdous as survival wasn't good for a submarine caught by the enemy. lots of subs where lost around the UK and med to both ships, planes and good old minefields

10-04-09, 05:48 PM	#61
Spyguy101 Helmsman Join Date: May 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 101 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	1 in 5. I guess my grandfather was one of the lucky 4.

01-23-10, 03:20 PM	#62
Bethune Watch Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Belgium Posts: 22 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Very cool , i'm really getting into submarines.

01-27-10, 08:06 PM	#63
Treetop64 Torpedoman Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bay Area, California Posts: 114 Downloads: 229 Uploads: 0	Excellent, excellent post, D. The technology of the US fleet boats in WWII is what astonishes me the most, particularly that of the TDC. A truly remarkable technological feat. These things were shoe-horned into fleet boats even before Pearl was bombed; the TDC MkI was designed, built, and installed during the mid 1930's! Truly amazing.

03-09-10, 03:30 PM	#64
Morpheus Ensign Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 234 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	I'm in your fanclub Ducimus

03-11-10, 09:36 PM	#66
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	What book?

07-19-10, 09:17 AM	#71
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	WELCOME ABOARD! __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

07-19-10, 11:22 PM	#72
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Hooch, you served on an O-Class? Nice! Welcome aboard! __________________

10-15-10, 10:54 PM	#73
Rrannett Watch Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: 108 Mile Ranch, BC, Canada Posts: 18 Downloads: 449 Uploads: 0	An Awakening I have been playing submarine sims since Silent Hunter I. Am now on TMO2 and GWX3. Enjoying them immensely! But just today I came upon this thread and I absolutely have to applaud the initial presentation by Ducimus, and the very entertaining followup by the numerous other posters. The modding work that has been performed by you gentlemen (you know who you are) and the intensity that has been displayed by all in these various postings and threads is remarkable. Today I gained a great respect for the men of the Silent Service, and those of you who carry on the spirit on the internet! "Thank you for the Memories" - with apologies to Bob Hope.

10-26-10, 09:43 AM	#74
Forensicman101 Gunner Join Date: May 2010 Location: Abercarn, South Wales, UK Posts: 91 Downloads: 79 Uploads: 0	US Landings Map One of my students sent me a jpeg map showing dates and locations of US landings in the pacific theatre of operations; I've no idea were it came from originally. I find it very handy for working out where the Japanese & Americans are on the map at any given time. (Wouldn't it be good if the terrain held by the two sides was colour coded so players could see at a glance where the enemy territory was?) He asked if I'd give him extra marks for his next essay, sadly I wasn't able to but he did get my thanks, & I posted some mod files to him! Link:http://www.filefront.com/user/forensicman

05-04-11, 08:50 PM	#75
Anthony W. Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Indiana Posts: 850 Downloads: 130 Uploads: 0	Remaining tench boats - you forgot the Requin and Thornback This is an amazing thread. I have the insane urge to make an amateur film. If I lived anywhere near a sub, I would go through all the channels and get that done. I love producing. EDIT: Beginning to write a screenplay as we speak __________________ Sunken Mustangs Proud Ford Mustang owner "Damn the torpedoes! Full speed ahead!" - Admiral David Farragut Run silent - run deep - keep the baffles clear - targets front and center. Private pilot and history buff Last edited by Anthony W.; 05-05-11 at 10:57 AM.