The facts of life: A heartfelt defense of Ubisoft and DRM

[BlueJ]

For those who know everything about everything, first just do your own homework....

PIRATES:
1. PREORDER a game if it is worth playing, like Battlefield Bad Company 2, or in case of JUST CAUSE 2, because they released a demo
2. BUY games that are WORTH buying, like Mass Effect 2
3. TEST downloaded game from torrents, rapidshare, usenet etc to see if the game is worth 50$. If it is, it is a buy. If not, it is uninstalled faster than it was installed
4. PIRATE unfinished games and games that are produced by companies only pursuing quick cash! The way I see it, Ubisoft just signed it's death warrant.
No, they will not play it, but they will pirate it till death!
5. Not every pirate has money, but almost 45% of total pirates actually BUY AND SUPPORT games that are good!
6. ENCOURAGE other people to buy something if it is worth the money and good product.
In their NFO file states: If you like the game, buy it! We did. Support the game developers!

Notice:
1. If you like the game, buy it!
2. We did.
3. Support the game developers!

And pirates are the problem? Yeah, suits are treating you like animals, and you are thinking WE are the problem? It's all OUR fault just because THEY say so? Who ever heard OUR side of the story? Who ever heard what WE think? Who ever considered to challenge official word? Who ever thought if this is a good product or bad? Who ever thought if this is worth that much money?
Yeah, we pirates are mass murderers, rapists, thieves, drug dealers, and they are saints...
EDUCATE your self on this matter by seeing it FOR YOURSELF, not believing as someone is telling you before you VERIFY it as a fact!

/rant

For all I know, Hitler would be pissed, but that would be too much. We need another movie...

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by JScones

Statistics can be conveniently misconstrued to argue any point.

Exactly my point

[Bilge_Rat]

Originally Posted by NefariousKoel

I didn't quite say everything I wanted to about Trenken or whatever his name is. Telling people to "keep their bitching in the 20+ other DRM threads" warrants more.

And your reference to Southerners lynching people is hardly a metaphor without ridiculous, biased, insult. Perhaps you should take your buddy, the ex-Starforce employee, and fill out hate crime charges.

I may have gone overboard last night with my comments. This forum is turning from a subsim forum to a Ubisoft DRM forum and I am getting tired of seeing the same discussions over and over again.

Just so we are clear, I tolerate Uplay because I have no choice, not because I like it. I would rather it was not there.

However resorting to personal insults is not what this forum is all about, unless we want this to turn into a Kindergarden like the Zoo referred to as the Ubi forum. If we want newbies to adhere to the Subsim standards, its essential that longstanding members like you and I set the example.

[Skullcowboy]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

I may have gone overboard last night with my comments. This forum is turning from a subsim forum to a Ubisoft DRM forum and I am getting tired of seeing the same discussions over and over again.

Just so we are clear, I tolerate Uplay because I have no choice, not because I like it. I would rather it was not there.

However resorting to personal insults is not what this forum is all about, unless we want this to turn into a Kindergarden like the Zoo referred to as the Ubi forum. If we want newbies to adhere to the Subsim standards, its essential that longstanding members like you and I set the example.

Respectfully, Bilge_Rat, I submit to you that you DO have a choice. All of us, as consumers do. That's kinda what lights me up sometimes is when companies and people like the OP try to convince us that we don't have a choice and we should just put up with it and give em the money. And I think that's why they try so hard to make us look like pirates or fringe activists trying to stir up trouble.
I am neither. I am a dedicated gamer who spends $100's per year on games and about a grand every other year upgrading my PC.

Yea, I'm one of those guys. Just ask my wife.

But back to it. You do have a choice. And I'll never rank on you no matter which direction you go.

[IanC]

Of course we all have a choice. If nobody bought DRM/OSP games, the game companies would dump it and find another form of protection.
unfortunately that's in theory only.

[Iridium]

Originally Posted by IanC

Of course we all have a choice. If nobody bought DRM/OSP games, the game companies would dump it and find another form of protection.

... and would blame the lack of sales on piracy rather than their own poor development, leading them instead to stop making PC games in the laughable belief that only PC games get pirated. Because, of course, how could the publishers possibly be the ones doing wrong?

[Ziggy]

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

Exactly my point

Did you know that 75.5% of statistics are made up?

[RSColonel_131st]

Originally Posted by Iridium

... and would blame the lack of sales on piracy rather than their own poor development, leading them instead to stop making PC games in the laughable belief that only PC games get pirated. Because, of course, how could the publishers possibly be the ones doing wrong?

Well, in this case they shot themself in the foot: As long as UBI claims that OSP has not been cracked, they can't blame pirates for bad sales figures.

[Irichanu]

Originally Posted by BlueJ

For those who know everything about everything, first just do your own homework....

[something here]

QTF

This is what I have been always trying to say.

Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st

Well, in this case they shot themself in the foot: As long as UBI claims that OSP has not been cracked, they can't blame pirates for bad sales figures.

Did they ever claim it was not cracked?

Look guys, im not trying to troll, im trying to say that the amount of complaining in this forum is ridiculous, and i'd love the chance to talk about the game without sifting through 10 boycott ubi threads, thats all. Cant we all just take a chill pill and wait a few weeks for the kinks to be ironed out? This is a brand new game. Personally Starforce was way worse on my computer, and i havent had any problems whatsoever with the DRM, thats not to say that you have not, but if it works fine for me, why not you?

I'll tone down or even stop arguing in this thread if thats what the community wants, also how can i prove i'm not whatever guy you guys were talking about? I'm also available for Al Qaida trial defense and Hitler Argentinia sneaking, just to complete the "Make everyone mad" trifecta

[IanC]

Did they ever claim it was not cracked?

Funny how you speak for 'they'...

Look guys, im not trying to troll, im trying to say that the amount of complaining in this forum is ridiculous

Why is it ridiculous? Maybe there's good reason for the complaining.

and i'd love the chance to talk about the game without sifting through 10 boycott ubi threads

There isn't any boycott threads here.

Personally Starforce was way worse on my computer, and i havent had any problems whatsoever with the DRM, thats not to say that you have not, but if it works fine for me, why not you?

I never had any problems with Starforce, and I can't play SH5 at all because of my net connection.

I'll tone down or even stop arguing in this thread if thats what the community wants, also how can i prove i'm not whatever guy you guys were talking about? I'm also available for Al Qaida trial defense and Hitler Argentinia sneaking, just to complete the "Make everyone mad" trifecta

If you walk and talk like a duck, people are going to call you a duck.

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Ziggy

Did you know that 75.5% of statistics are made up?

and the 24.5% that arent are all liars

[Faamecanic]

Originally Posted by Ducimus

QFE

Ducimus.... your signature line is QFT...and a GREAT LMFAO to boot

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by MattDizzle

...and i'd love the chance to talk about the game without sifting through 10 boycott ubi threads...

Can you show me these ten threads you have to sift through? All the Anti-DRM threads were consolidated into one several days ago, and any new ones anyone starts are either locked or moved into that one.

I see that you have posted in several other threads, and honestly in relation the threads themselves, so I'll refrain from any more negative comments, for the time being. On the other hand, have you posted in the 'Bugs' thread? Or the 'Review' thread? Or most importantly the 'Introduce Yourself' thread?

[Faamecanic]

You said your piece Steve....

You of all people in this forum do NOT have to defend yourself..