Cloud kills the console star?

Skybird · 03-11-10, 06:01 AM

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8556874.stm

World on wire.

Other services to follow, not only gaming, I'm sure. And eventually, in the future, some of these services, like paperwork with the authorities and public bureaus, cannot be dodged anymore.

I hate to become so crystalline and dependant. So many opportunities for abusing. So many chances for getting abused.

TarJak · 03-11-10, 06:34 AM

Welcome to the world online.

Highbury · 03-11-10, 06:35 AM

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So many opportunities for abusing. So many chances for getting abused.

OOooo sounds fun!

CCIP · 03-11-10, 06:39 AM

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Welcome to the world online.

Actually welcome to the world in general

Skybird · 03-11-10, 06:41 AM

Existence is online. The world is just a simulation.

TarJak · 03-11-10, 06:49 AM

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Actually welcome to the world in general

True that.

krashkart · 03-11-10, 09:05 AM

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OnLive will be available for a monthly rental fee of $14.95 (£9.99) for subscribers to then buy or rent games over the internet.

They want more money, on top of the monthly fee, for rentals or full purchase? I think it's a ripoff.

NeonSamurai · 03-11-10, 11:01 AM

Not now, not ever. I didn't like this idea back when it started under the server/workstation concept for businesses.

Respenus · 03-11-10, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Skybird

Existence is online. The world is just a simulation.

Please don't do that Sky. It sent shivers down my spine. It is already difficult for our modern world to separate one from the other. If this continues and your statement becomes reality, it will be high time we end it all. Now, I'm not a technophobe, I'll be the first one to welcome the technological singularity and promote transhumanism, yet the step from the real to the virtual might just be the threshold (straw) that will break the proverbial camels back. We are still far from being capable of transferring our minds (reasons) to a central hard-drive and until we do, if ever (although it might not be a bad idea concerning how many brilliant minds are lost to silly things like death), to have a physical body, yet a virtual mind could, in our inability to examine future possibilities and act rationally (do not read pragmatically), turn out to be our final undoing.

ajrimmer42 · 03-11-10, 12:21 PM

♫ Video killed the radio star, video killed the radio star...

Damn you Skybird!

Hasn't something like this been available for a while?

Kapitan_Phillips · 03-11-10, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrimmer42

♫ Video killed the radio star, video killed the radio star...

Damn you Skybird!

I was thinking that too

Skybird · 03-11-10, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ajrimmer42

♫ Video killed the radio star, video killed the radio star...

Damn you Skybird!

Hasn't something like this been available for a while?

Right that I had on mind!

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Please don't do that Sky. It sent shivers down my spine. It is already difficult for our modern world to separate one from the other. If this continues and your statement becomes reality, it will be high time we end it all. Now, I'm not a technophobe, I'll be the first one to welcome the technological singularity and promote transhumanism, yet the step from the real to the virtual might just be the threshold (straw) that will break the proverbial camels back. We are still far from being capable of transferring our minds (reasons) to a central hard-drive and until we do, if ever (although it might not be a bad idea concerning how many brilliant minds are lost to silly things like death), to have a physical body, yet a virtual mind could, in our inability to examine future possibilities and act rationally (do not read pragmatically), turn out to be our final undoing.

In the end, all reality is inside our heads only, we cannot be sure of anything being like our senses seem tell us it is. We do not find reality - we create it every single moment in our minds. In the end it's all just electrons racing up and down the neural highways. And of the real nature of both we cannot be sure, too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welt_am_Draht

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thirteenth_Floor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_K._Dick

Diopos · 03-11-10, 02:29 PM

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In the end it's all just electrons racing up and down the neural highways. ...

Actually not even electrons, more like fluctuations of electromagnetic "density"... and it gets weirder and much more abstract on the way "down" ( to quantum mechanical scales).

The next god will have a PhD on quantum enginnering

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a biiiiig computer

... and DRM issues

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Respenus · 03-11-10, 02:48 PM

While what you have said is true Sky, we are in the worst case scenario spoon fed this reality, or in the best case scenario, we just miss an element or two due to our senses. Even if we very trapped in a box, it wouldn't matter. If there is no way out, even imagining a way out wouldn't in the end work. The movies which build on such fear always a log out ability. I'm doubtful we would have that, if we are truly plugged into a giant machine. That's why I don't deal with existentialism, it only messes with other things I could be doing and would be beneficial to (virtual) humanity.

The internet would be a virtual reality within a (virtual) reality. Our reality would still seem real to us, not matter anything else, yet a life lived in VR could be very dangerous, as, as I have mentioned in my previous post, you still have a physical body and the "chaos" of the world around you to contend with. Weren't you just lamenting the death of the baby of the South Korean couple, which was neglected due to an VR child? It only takes one single, minuscule event and things go the wrong way. The fact that cloud computing in this case only transfers the image of what is going on on their screen, is worrying, if not for anything else, for privacy reasons.

Skybird · 03-11-10, 03:59 PM

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Actually not even electrons, more like fluctuations of electromagnetic "density"... and it gets weirder and much more abstract on the way "down" ( to quantum mechanical scales).

Clouds of probabilities, anyone...?

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Respenus Ace of the Deep Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,169 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	While what you have said is true Sky, we are in the worst case scenario spoon fed this reality, or in the best case scenario, we just miss an element or two due to our senses. Even if we very trapped in a box, it wouldn't matter. If there is no way out, even imagining a way out wouldn't in the end work. The movies which build on such fear always a log out ability. I'm doubtful we would have that, if we are truly plugged into a giant machine. That's why I don't deal with existentialism, it only messes with other things I could be doing and would be beneficial to (virtual) humanity. The internet would be a virtual reality within a (virtual) reality. Our reality would still seem real to us, not matter anything else, yet a life lived in VR could be very dangerous, as, as I have mentioned in my previous post, you still have a physical body and the "chaos" of the world around you to contend with. Weren't you just lamenting the death of the baby of the South Korean couple, which was neglected due to an VR child? It only takes one single, minuscule event and things go the wrong way. The fact that cloud computing in this case only transfers the image of what is going on on their screen, is worrying, if not for anything else, for privacy reasons. __________________ Last edited by Respenus; 03-11-10 at 03:12 PM.

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