Should Wakehoming Torpedos Work Vs. Subs?

Amizaur · 08-25-05, 03:47 PM

I believe that submerged and non-cavitating submarines don't leave visible wake, am I right ?

Reducing depth of 65cm to -10m would be effective way of limiting it's usage to surface contacts, however it seems that my info about 65cm being near-surface only weapon was not true, it probably is capable of being launched and run quite deep. I think that because few years ago Russians were offering it for export as TT-5 heavyweight wake-homing torpedo, and in the paper describing it was said about possible deep launch and wide spectrum of run depths.
But I think this still doesn't mean that it can be used against submarines, leaving no visible wake, even if it was set to correct depth !
Disabling subs as possible target in DB editor means only that you can't launch it at sub, but if you re-classify contact as surface you could still use it and it would guide at submerged subs without problems...
So the only way to prevent it is probably just limiting it's run depth... what has also positive aspect because there would be no need to remember set it shallow - it would be default. Same effect can be achieved by modifing wake-homer doctrine and forcing command of 10m depth after enable.
Looking at the doctrine it seems that it's not possible to make it ignore wake of submarines - based on tgt class or something. Wake isn't detected by sensor, it have to be coded somehow different...
But again looking at doctrine I see that it is ordered to IGNORE any countermeasures :-) that's why wake-homing 65cm is much better than conventional - at least for me :-)

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08-25-05, 03:47 PM	#4
Amizaur Sonar Guy Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Poland Posts: 398 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I believe that submerged and non-cavitating submarines don't leave visible wake, am I right ? Reducing depth of 65cm to -10m would be effective way of limiting it's usage to surface contacts, however it seems that my info about 65cm being near-surface only weapon was not true, it probably is capable of being launched and run quite deep. I think that because few years ago Russians were offering it for export as TT-5 heavyweight wake-homing torpedo, and in the paper describing it was said about possible deep launch and wide spectrum of run depths. But I think this still doesn't mean that it can be used against submarines, leaving no visible wake, even if it was set to correct depth ! Disabling subs as possible target in DB editor means only that you can't launch it at sub, but if you re-classify contact as surface you could still use it and it would guide at submerged subs without problems... So the only way to prevent it is probably just limiting it's run depth... what has also positive aspect because there would be no need to remember set it shallow - it would be default. Same effect can be achieved by modifing wake-homer doctrine and forcing command of 10m depth after enable. Looking at the doctrine it seems that it's not possible to make it ignore wake of submarines - based on tgt class or something. Wake isn't detected by sensor, it have to be coded somehow different... But again looking at doctrine I see that it is ordered to IGNORE any countermeasures :-) that's why wake-homing 65cm is much better than conventional - at least for me :-)