Interesting AI Behaviour - Page 2

Fmilk · 03-09-10, 02:21 PM

This happened to me in SHIV a few days ago.
Since the ship was constantly SW from my location, I set my course SW, and, eventually, he ran into some... land.
Now I've got the same issue in SHV, and Bretagne ain't that far.

Conrad von Kaiser · 03-09-10, 03:08 PM

Happened on Patrol last night. Had just taken out a few merchants when 3 destroyers made their way on the scene. Went to 50 meters, stayed quiet until the passed. Surfaced and got a 4th contact. Bad weather so he was outside visual but I could see him spinning around like a top. Moved in to see what was going on, he kept distance. No matter where I went he stayed at the same distance spinning around in circles.

Got tired of having my crew constantly calling him out so I started moving towards him to torpedo him. Couldn't close the distance and he ended up crashing into the coast of France.

Merlin.75 · 03-09-10, 03:27 PM

Here's another one for you had a DD try and sink me but sunk himself instead.

AndrejD · 03-10-10, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

So here I am, on my first patrol as Captain, near the southern end of my patrol zone when my sonar operator picks up a contact. I surface and move in to investigate. It's dark and a little foggy so I have to close the range for a while until I see it is a warship of some sort. Now, I'm here to sink merchant tonnage, not to get into cat and mouse games with warships, so while I am still outside of his visual range I reverse course and move out slowly.

But he follows me.

I am still out of his visual detection range so I increase speed. He increases speed.

I change course. He changes course.

I slow down. He slows down.

I decide to submerge, head north and go to silent running for a few hours in hopes he will get bored and go away. Nope.. he just hangs around. Never getting within attack range, and never moving away. I surface, change course and pour on the coals and he matches me course and speed. We are now over 100 miles from where I picked him up and he is still there.

Again, he never closes the distance, never moves in, but he is stuck to me like an annoying kid brother.

I may have to sink him just to get rid.

JCC

it happens on almost every patrol run. 1-5 Destroyers are folowing you. They always match the speed and course. One time the same happened with a convoy of merchants... You can`t get close to sing them, and you can`t run away. This game has so many bugs that it should be named The silent hunter bug game.
And the only thing that`s important to UBISOFT is the DRM and the money.
Go to h**** UBISOFT.

Noren · 03-10-10, 06:41 AM

Quote:

Got tired of having my crew constantly calling him out so I started moving towards him to torpedo him. Couldn't close the distance and he ended up crashing into the coast of France.

Haha! There's your solution gentemen! Round them up and crash them to the nearest continent!

PhantomLord · 03-10-10, 07:32 AM

Hope you get the renown for this fine art of sinking ships. And an extra medal for saving eels

JamesT73J · 03-10-10, 08:45 AM

I do think it's a broken script of some kind; it is as if they are going into a hard-coded escort routine. I'm sure someone poking about could find it.

kraznyi_oktjabr · 03-10-10, 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndrejD

it happens on almost every patrol run. 1-5 Destroyers are folowing you. They always match the speed and course. One time the same happened with a convoy of merchants... You can`t get close to sing them, and you can`t run away. This game has so many bugs that it should be named The silent hunter bug game.
And the only thing that`s important to UBISOFT is the DRM and the money.
Go to h**** UBISOFT.

Excellent idea! "Bug Hunter 5" or BH5.

Sounds much better than SH5 actually...

robbo180265 · 03-10-10, 09:35 AM

Das Bug? lol

Deimos01 · 03-10-10, 09:41 AM

I wonder if this also has to do with friendly ships that you encounter in the Keil Canal. Ill come across ships heading the other way and they stop and reverse engines as if they are trying to pace my boat. Found it curious. Anyone else see this?

Conrad von Kaiser · 03-10-10, 10:03 AM

Pace me no, but I have had some rather close calls. Seems the AI on friendly ships see you as "Der Supreme unterseeboot Commander" and do everything they can to give you the right of way.

Still hasn't stopped me from colliding here and there though lol.

mookiemookie · 03-14-10, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

So here I am, on my first patrol as Captain, near the southern end of my patrol zone when my sonar operator picks up a contact. I surface and move in to investigate. It's dark and a little foggy so I have to close the range for a while until I see it is a warship of some sort. Now, I'm here to sink merchant tonnage, not to get into cat and mouse games with warships, so while I am still outside of his visual range I reverse course and move out slowly.

But he follows me.

I am still out of his visual detection range so I increase speed. He increases speed.

I change course. He changes course.

I slow down. He slows down.

I decide to submerge, head north and go to silent running for a few hours in hopes he will get bored and go away. Nope.. he just hangs around. Never getting within attack range, and never moving away. I surface, change course and pour on the coals and he matches me course and speed. We are now over 100 miles from where I picked him up and he is still there.

Again, he never closes the distance, never moves in, but he is stuck to me like an annoying kid brother.

I may have to sink him just to get rid.

JCC

Dragging this thread out to say that I've found if you save and reload, this behavior goes away. I had some stupid DD dogging me this way...spinning figure 8's about 8 or 9 km out, following me around the Faroes - I saved, reloaded, and he was gone. Hope this helps anyone else having this issue.

SteamWake · 03-14-10, 09:42 AM

Seems like loading saved games 'forgets' alot of things....

Anyhow last night I did a surface attack against a convoy, had two ships down before the escorts came over to visit.

I dived and went to slink away but watched the escorts on the external cam.

Thats when I noticed them shooting, shooting their big guns and little ones at an open patch of water. Not even close to where I am / were. Just popping off rounds into the water? I had to double check to see that they werent shooting at one another.

I turned north and sailed away while they shot at beer cans or something floating on the water

03-10-10, 07:32 AM	#21
PhantomLord XO Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 408 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Hope you get the renown for this fine art of sinking ships. And an extra medal for saving eels __________________ ~^~ War does not determine who is right - only who is left. ~^~

03-10-10, 08:45 AM	#22
JamesT73J Medic Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 167 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I do think it's a broken script of some kind; it is as if they are going into a hard-coded escort routine. I'm sure someone poking about could find it. __________________ "My advice - buy the damn game and play the arse off it. It's not all there yet but it's still a damn good game, and we all know it'll be even better once the community is done crawling all over it." User 'Sideways' 08th March 2010.

03-10-10, 09:41 AM	#25
Deimos01 Frogman Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: St louis Posts: 304 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I wonder if this also has to do with friendly ships that you encounter in the Keil Canal. Ill come across ships heading the other way and they stop and reverse engines as if they are trying to pace my boat. Found it curious. Anyone else see this? __________________ "No matter where you go... there you are" - Buckaroo Banzai

03-14-10, 09:42 AM	#28
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Seems like loading saved games 'forgets' alot of things.... Anyhow last night I did a surface attack against a convoy, had two ships down before the escorts came over to visit. I dived and went to slink away but watched the escorts on the external cam. Thats when I noticed them shooting, shooting their big guns and little ones at an open patch of water. Not even close to where I am / were. Just popping off rounds into the water? I had to double check to see that they werent shooting at one another. I turned north and sailed away while they shot at beer cans or something floating on the water __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-09-10, 02:21 PM	#16
Fmilk Swabbie Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 7 Downloads: 16 Uploads: 0	This happened to me in SHIV a few days ago. Since the ship was constantly SW from my location, I set my course SW, and, eventually, he ran into some... land. Now I've got the same issue in SHV, and Bretagne ain't that far.

03-09-10, 03:08 PM	#17
Conrad von Kaiser Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New York Posts: 105 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Happened on Patrol last night. Had just taken out a few merchants when 3 destroyers made their way on the scene. Went to 50 meters, stayed quiet until the passed. Surfaced and got a 4th contact. Bad weather so he was outside visual but I could see him spinning around like a top. Moved in to see what was going on, he kept distance. No matter where I went he stayed at the same distance spinning around in circles. Got tired of having my crew constantly calling him out so I started moving towards him to torpedo him. Couldn't close the distance and he ended up crashing into the coast of France.

03-09-10, 03:27 PM	#18
Merlin.75 Nub Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 4 Downloads: 34 Uploads: 0	Here's another one for you had a DD try and sink me but sunk himself instead.

03-10-10, 09:35 AM	#24
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Das Bug? lol

03-10-10, 10:03 AM	#26
Conrad von Kaiser Helmsman Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: New York Posts: 105 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Pace me no, but I have had some rather close calls. Seems the AI on friendly ships see you as "Der Supreme unterseeboot Commander" and do everything they can to give you the right of way. Still hasn't stopped me from colliding here and there though lol.