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Arclight · 03-08-10, 11:07 PM

Ubisoft is responsible for maintaining the 'service'. I blame the group responsible for not being able to play, but the responsibility lies with Ubisoft.

But it's alright, Assassin's Creed 2 will arrive in the mail today, so I can just play that untill SH5 is playable again.

Oh, wait...

Eightbit · 03-08-10, 11:11 PM

I must say. I expected their to be issues with the drm. Maintenance or a hiccup now and then. And I'm not surprised they had some issues with the launch or shortly after. But I certainly didn't expect this.

As for a crack group dos'ing the servers? As already stated that doesn't make any sense. Look at "spyro: year of the dragon" They implemented a nasty form of crack protection which took over a month to crack and when it finally did get cracked the group that did it thanked the dev's for the challenge.

Forgot the name of the group and the exact time frame, but one of the dev's wrote an article about it and if I find it I'll post it. It's actually a really interesting read.

Steeltrap · 03-08-10, 11:17 PM

Sorry fellow SubSimmers, but you are getting exactly the ride you signed up for when you elected to hand the responsibility for running the game you 'purchased' to an external source over which you have no control, nor any effective redress.

I may get brigged for it (would be a first in 10 years), but I'm not exactly overflowing with sympathy for those of you who bought into this abomination of a system and are now experiencing the entirely predictable consequences of it.

And with all due respect, JCC, the fault IS Ubi's. Why? As has been said, it's because they chose to make the playing experience entirely reliant on their ability to maintain their servers' performances.

Hell, a competitor might elect to say "let's kick Ubi in the nuts by screwing their servers: watch what THAT does to Ubi's rep".

It is all so utterly predictable that I'm amazed (and almost amused) that anyone is complaining about it.

Sorry about this post. I (almost) feel bad about it. But for all the "I'll never buy the game with this OSP" rage we saw, plenty of people have bought it. Now they're experiencing the full value of the "extra services" provided by Ubi. I do like to see people get what they pay for.....

p.s. I do feel bad for posting this, but I'll leave it standing anyway....

Arclight · 03-08-10, 11:51 PM

Meh. Went into this knowing the risk. We have every right to complain about Ubi not living up to it's responsibilities though. Personally I still have some hope Ubi learns it's lesson.

I'd almost go as far as saying this attack is a nescesary evil to get the point across to them, so you won't even hear me complaining about it.

Don't feel bad, the world will go on without your sympathy.

Steeltrap · 03-09-10, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Arclight

Don't feel bad, the world will go on without your sympathy.

Yeah, that's certainly true.

vonce1 · 03-09-10, 12:10 AM

21:10 PST, can't play, servers down

Onkel Neal · 03-09-10, 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Sorry fellow SubSimmers, but you are getting exactly the ride you signed up for when you elected to hand the responsibility for running the game you 'purchased' to an external source over which you have no control, nor any effective redress.

I may get brigged for it (would be a first in 10 years), but I'm not exactly overflowing with sympathy for those of you who bought into this abomination of a system and are now experiencing the entirely predictable consequences of it.

And with all due respect, JCC, the fault IS Ubi's. Why? As has been said, it's because they chose to make the playing experience entirely reliant on their ability to maintain their servers' performances.

Hell, a competitor might elect to say "let's kick Ubi in the nuts by screwing their servers: watch what THAT does to Ubi's rep".

It is all so utterly predictable that I'm amazed (and almost amused) that anyone is complaining about it.

Sorry about this post. I (almost) feel bad about it. But for all the "I'll never buy the game with this OSP" rage we saw, plenty of people have bought it. Now they're experiencing the full value of the "extra services" provided by Ubi. I do like to see people get what they pay for.....

p.s. I do feel bad for posting this, but I'll leave it standing anyway....

Well, it's not exactly stressing me out. If the server is down, I do something else. Nothing to freak out over. If the hackers would just leave the servers alone, it would be fine.

Rip · 03-09-10, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, it's not exactly stressing me out. If the server is down, I do something else. Nothing to freak out over. If the hackers would just leave the servers alone, it would be fine.

Don't you think you are accepting the excuse rather easily? If this was caused by DDoS the hackers would be out there bragging about it, just like terrorists do when the blow something up. Without verification from a reputable security firm that this is what is going I call baloney.

Maybe you should have said that they were making subsim slow as well instead of the truth that the server has been overloaded? If you did how would we know? So far looking at the web sources available I don't see any traffic listing that would validate that ubisoft servers are being bombarded with DDoS traffic. DDos traffic is rather easy to identify and I would expect a comment from the datacenter/ISP that Ubisoft uses if they were actually being attacked.

Rip

Ships-R-Us · 03-09-10, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Rip

Don't you think you are accepting the excuse rather easily? If this was caused by DDoS the hackers would be out there bragging about it, just like terrorists do when the blow something up. Without verification from a reputable security firm that this is what is going I call baloney.

Maybe you should have said that they were making subsim slow as well instead of the truth that the server has been overloaded? If you did how would we know? So far looking at the web sources available I don't see any traffic listing that would validate that ubisoft servers are being bombarded with DDoS traffic. DDos traffic is rather easy to identify and I would expect a comment from the datacenter/ISP that Ubisoft uses if they were actually being attacked.

Rip

I guess there is more meaningful things in life than playing games and hanging around here which is something I am guilty of also......

Neal is simply stating that his lifestyle has a balance that mine is missing...

Mos · 03-09-10, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Well, it's not exactly stressing me out. If the server is down, I do something else. Nothing to freak out over. If the hackers would just leave the servers alone, it would be fine.

Well, Ubisoft can either pray it stops raining or they can buy an umbrella. Presumably both of them, if successful, would keep them from getting wet. But only one of them is actually realistic.

Rip · 03-09-10, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Ships-R-Us

I guess there is more meaningful things in life than playing games and hanging around here which is something I am guilty of also......

Neal is simply stating that his lifestyle has a balance that mine is missing...

I am all with that. I just wonder why we are so quick to take "the hackers did it" line. It reminds me of governments blaming all their restrictions on freedoms on terrorists. I don't believe in taking the word of the party with the most reason to lie without at least a little prudent verification. You know to keep honest people honest.

Reece · 03-09-10, 12:39 AM

Well they said if their servers went down they would issue a patch .... Where is the patch UBI!!

Capt.Warner · 03-09-10, 12:41 AM

Haven't had a single problem today with the servers,interesting

The Enigma · 03-09-10, 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

If you want to be pissed (and you have every right to be) be pissed at the people who are preventing you from playing the game you spent your money on. And it ain't Ubisoft.

JCC

I disagree, you need to keep UBI completely responsible for this.
They are the one who have built in this ridicules anti piracy solution.

And i's sooo cheap to blame the pirates instead of themselves.

But what do you expect from a company who even doesn't trust their own legitimate buyers.

razark · 03-09-10, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

Well they said if their servers went down they would issue a patch .... Where is the patch UBI!!

Nah. Ubisoft said if they took the servers down, not if someone else takes their servers down.

03-08-10, 11:07 PM	#271
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Ubisoft is responsible for maintaining the 'service'. I blame the group responsible for not being able to play, but the responsibility lies with Ubisoft. But it's alright, Assassin's Creed 2 will arrive in the mail today, so I can just play that untill SH5 is playable again. Oh, wait... __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-08-10, 11:51 PM	#274
Arclight Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Land of windmills, tulips, wooden shoes and cheese. Lots of cheese. Posts: 8,467 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 10	Meh. Went into this knowing the risk. We have every right to complain about Ubi not living up to it's responsibilities though. Personally I still have some hope Ubi learns it's lesson. I'd almost go as far as saying this attack is a nescesary evil to get the point across to them, so you won't even hear me complaining about it. Don't feel bad, the world will go on without your sympathy. __________________ Contritium praecedit superbia.

03-09-10, 12:10 AM	#276
vonce1 A-ganger Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: So. California Posts: 79 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	21:10 PST, can't play, servers down __________________

03-09-10, 12:39 AM	#282
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,957 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Well they said if their servers went down they would issue a patch .... Where is the patch UBI!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

03-09-10, 12:41 AM	#283
Capt.Warner Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 262 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	Haven't had a single problem today with the servers,interesting __________________

03-08-10, 11:11 PM	#272
Eightbit Seaman Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 35 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	I must say. I expected their to be issues with the drm. Maintenance or a hiccup now and then. And I'm not surprised they had some issues with the launch or shortly after. But I certainly didn't expect this. As for a crack group dos'ing the servers? As already stated that doesn't make any sense. Look at "spyro: year of the dragon" They implemented a nasty form of crack protection which took over a month to crack and when it finally did get cracked the group that did it thanked the dev's for the challenge. Forgot the name of the group and the exact time frame, but one of the dev's wrote an article about it and if I find it I'll post it. It's actually a really interesting read.

03-08-10, 11:17 PM	#273
Steeltrap Grey Wolf Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 818 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Sorry fellow SubSimmers, but you are getting *exactly* the ride you signed up for when you elected to hand the responsibility for running the game you 'purchased' to an external source over which you have no control, nor any effective redress. I may get brigged for it (would be a first in 10 years), but I'm not exactly overflowing with sympathy for those of you who bought into this abomination of a system and are now experiencing the entirely predictable consequences of it. And with all due respect, JCC, the fault IS Ubi's. Why? As has been said, it's because they chose to make the playing experience entirely reliant on their ability to maintain their servers' performances. Hell, a competitor might elect to say "let's kick Ubi in the nuts by screwing their servers: watch what THAT does to Ubi's rep". It is all so utterly predictable that I'm amazed (and almost amused) that anyone is complaining about it. Sorry about this post. I (almost) feel bad about it. But for all the "I'll never buy the game with this OSP" rage we saw, plenty of people have bought it. Now they're experiencing the full value of the "extra services" provided by Ubi. I do like to see people get what they pay for..... p.s. I do feel bad for posting this, but I'll leave it standing anyway....