Ubisoft Masterserver down? (merged)

Onkel Neal · 03-08-10, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st

The main aim of OSP and similar DRM methods is simple: Ban resale of games, sell DLC content trough the system, and monitor your customer base so you can target your marketing efforts better. Few of these DRM systems ever prevent piracy, so if that was the reason behind it, they should have been dropped by now.

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but I don't share it. We both know that it is very likely that Ubisoft will drop the OSP after a period of time, just like they did for SH3 (SF) and SH4 (Secureom).

ridley · 03-08-10, 04:38 PM

Of course we are all assuming that the DOS attack is from those naughty pirates and their ilk.

When in reality given Ubisofts failure to make a working SH4 Multiplayer server even after several years, I think it is just as likely that the DOS attack is from those pesky customers trying to play the games that they bought over the weekend.

Ridley

ndvsky · 03-08-10, 04:43 PM

OMG, again and again and again. That is the worst DRM ever! IT'S A TRAP!

malkuth74 · 03-08-10, 04:55 PM

Give you my own analogy. Your in an ocean with a bunch of sharks. You stick a class man size square with holes in it for water can leak in. You enter the class box. You place yourself in the ocean with the sharks.

Then you pour a 100 pounds of cut up bloody meat into the box with you.

When you die is it your fault or the sharks fault?

Analogies are all fun and everything.

But you can't beat the point that single player games should not have to have a permanent online connection. END OF STORY.

And don't make a shark Cage out of glass while your at it.

Konovalov · 03-08-10, 04:53 PM

I haven't bothered to get involved in this DRM debate previously nor have I jumped on the SHV sucks whinge brigade. For the record I have yet to buy SHV but I do intend to in the future. This thread is now a dozen or so pages long and I can barely find any outrage directed at the hackers who have attacked the UBI servers. Yes Ubisoft should have done better and yes I believe that Ubi have gone down the wrong path on the type of DRM implemented in SHV. But Ubi didn't cause this problem. Some spineless geek twit in cyberspace did.

Quite frankly the SHV forum has become a mass torrent of whinging and hysteria populated by a loud minority of cry babies. Time to dive deep and hope for better weather on the surface in a month or so.

mookiemookie · 03-08-10, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Konovalov

Quite frankly the SHV forum has become a mass torrent of whinging and hysteria populated by a loud minority of cry babies. Time to dive deep and hope for better weather on the surface in a month or so.

You're probably right. I'm sure the anti DRM zealots will have bitched and moaned themselves out by then.

JU_88 · 03-08-10, 05:07 PM

Hmm, DRM is broken for me this evening.... cant seem to log in / connect.

I guess if this OSP screws up badly enough, they may be forced to patch it out early.

RSColonel_131st · 03-09-10, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

That's your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but I don't share it. We both know that it is very likely that Ubisoft will drop the OSP after a period of time, just like they did for SH3 (SF) and SH4 (Secureom).

UBI Spokespersons in an interview answered that question in the negative, as in: OSP will remain in the games forever.

They will not drop OSP, like they did with the Security for the previous two. That's what they said.

And if it has already been cracked (which I tend to believe more than people who claim 95% of users are able to play) what good does it do, except be a marketing asset and prevent resale?

03-08-10, 04:55 PM	#4
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Give you my own analogy. Your in an ocean with a bunch of sharks. You stick a class man size square with holes in it for water can leak in. You enter the class box. You place yourself in the ocean with the sharks. Then you pour a 100 pounds of cut up bloody meat into the box with you. When you die is it your fault or the sharks fault? Analogies are all fun and everything. But you can't beat the point that single player games should not have to have a permanent online connection. END OF STORY. And don't make a shark Cage out of glass while your at it. __________________

03-08-10, 04:53 PM	#5
Konovalov Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: High Wycombe, Bucks, UK Posts: 2,811 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	I haven't bothered to get involved in this DRM debate previously nor have I jumped on the SHV sucks whinge brigade. For the record I have yet to buy SHV but I do intend to in the future. This thread is now a dozen or so pages long and I can barely find any outrage directed at the hackers who have attacked the UBI servers. Yes Ubisoft should have done better and yes I believe that Ubi have gone down the wrong path on the type of DRM implemented in SHV. But Ubi didn't cause this problem. Some spineless geek twit in cyberspace did. Quite frankly the SHV forum has become a mass torrent of whinging and hysteria populated by a loud minority of cry babies. Time to dive deep and hope for better weather on the surface in a month or so. __________________ "In a Christian context, sexuality is traditionally seen as a consequence of the Fall, but for Muslims, it is an anticipation of paradise. So I can say, I think, that I was validly converted to Islam by a teenage French Jewish nudist." Sheikh Abdul-Hakim Murad (Timothy Winter)

03-08-10, 04:38 PM	#2
ridley Helmsman Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 108 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Of course we are all assuming that the DOS attack is from those naughty pirates and their ilk. When in reality given Ubisofts failure to make a working SH4 Multiplayer server even after several years, I think it is just as likely that the DOS attack is from those pesky customers trying to play the games that they bought over the weekend. Ridley

03-08-10, 04:43 PM	#3
ndvsky Swabbie Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 10 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	OMG, again and again and again. That is the worst DRM ever! IT'S A TRAP!

03-08-10, 05:07 PM	#7
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Hmm, DRM is broken for me this evening.... cant seem to log in / connect. I guess if this OSP screws up badly enough, they may be forced to patch it out early.