Ubisoft Masterserver down? (merged) - Page 11

mookiemookie · 03-08-10, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Gian

Also if it has been attacked.... who can blame the people that did....

I can. The idea of people deciding for others that they made the wrong choice, and keeping them from playing the game in the name of saving them from themselves is pretentious beyond belief.

Davy TASB · 03-08-10, 03:26 PM

What was that noise???

Was it the sound of someone from UBI apologising to its loyal customers for this debacle......

THOUGHT NOT.

Nordmann · 03-08-10, 03:27 PM

Well, I'm definitely glad that my money stayed in the proverbial wallet with this one, it seems the numerous predictions of disaster were proved correct. Still, I'm sure the game is good....when you can play it!

Task Force · 03-08-10, 03:29 PM

THE LOG IN!!!

I got the log on screen, now will it let me log on.

DUNT DUN DUN!!!

whaaaaaaaaattttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its the Fing right user name and password you S** WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM (Yes, im angry, just got home from school and want to play my new game and I find this out... this is a load of BS... take this ubisoft... (puts middle finger up)

Maltro · 03-08-10, 03:29 PM

Incredible!!! My game works!!! Try yourself. At 9:27 PM Paris time. Thank you UBI to let me use your software! So nice...

RSColonel_131st · 03-08-10, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Manstein16

The only effective way to make yourself heard in this situation is to attempt to return the game. While returns are generally forbidden by the shrinkwrap contract, an argument could be made that Ubi violated that contract when their servers went down for an extended period of time.

To add to your point:

It would be so much easier to find quality games and non-obtrusive DRM in the market if game stores were legally obligated to take returns and refund software.

Right now, it's a horrible gray legal zone. Small customer can't sue large international game publisher. Small customer can't return defective software in the store he bought it. And certainly not online. Of course this simple means the large publishers can release broken goods all day long.

walsh2509 · 03-08-10, 03:30 PM

Anyone one know when the servers going to be back up ?

Is the game down everywhere ?

It is here in Scotland , is it the same in the rest of the UK and beyond.

DragonRR1 · 03-08-10, 03:33 PM

Apparently I'm one of the 5% of affected users. I haven't, however, seen a single post from anyone who can actually connect to the UBI servers. Odd isn't it!

DOS attacks are nearly impossible to completely stop especially when the attackers are absolutely determined. UBI MUST either do the impossible or find some other method of reducing piracy.

RSColonel_131st · 03-08-10, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buckster

my only worry (and all my games are legitimate and purchased) - is that Ubi and others have been forced down this route due to huge piracy problem

if DRM this way doesn't work

we may find in the future no more PC games as won't be worth their while - they'll just concentrate on Consoles

Understandable worries, but factually unfounded.

Look at Fallout3. That was one of THE games for the Winter Season of 2008.

It shipped with a disk check covering only the launcher/configuration tool, the game itself runs - stock, unmodified - without disk in the drive.

Another Triple-A title is Armed Assault 2, THE land combat simulation currently on the market. The developers removed the disk check with patch 1.05, in about six months after release.

If Ubi thinks a "niche game" like SH5 needs more protection than the best RPG of 2008 they need their head examined.

Heck, Ubi themself removed the disk check from SH 1.5 patch (U-Boat missions). If they would promise to do that for their titles with the new DRM, lets say a year after release, people would certainly be much more accepting of the system.

John Channing · 03-08-10, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gian

What a sorry excuse... servers being attacked I wish they can just admit they are a bunch of *^£$ morons...

Also if it has been attacked.... who can blame the people that did....

You're right.

HOW DARE Ubisoft try to prevent hackers from cracking the product so that people can steal it instead of paying for it. What was Ubisoft thinking?

When they couldn't defeat the DRM the hackers have EVERY RIGHT to attack the server in order to prevent the people who actually paid for this from enjoying it. IT WAS THEIR DUTY. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO PLAY THIS GAME! UBISOFT MUST BE STOPPED AND IF PAYING CUSOMERS HAVE TO SUFFER SO BE IT!

It's Ubisofts fault that the hackers can't defeat the DRM so the use of another method to prevent legitimate paying customers from enjoying their purchase IS PERFECTLY FAIR.

THEY HAD TO DO IT TO DEFEND THE HONOR OF ALL OF THE HACKERS AND THIEVES OUT THERE!

JCC

has anyone seen where I put the asprin?

Fincuan · 03-08-10, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st

Right now, it's a horrible gray legal zone. Small customer can't sue large international game publisher. Small customer can't return defective software in the store he bought it. And certainly not online

Why not? Plenty of people have done it in the past and I don't see why SH5 would be an excemption. If the small customers can argument their case well enough they can get a return.

Fantasm · 03-08-10, 03:37 PM

I'd be seriously considering returning the game if I bought it. If Ubisoft folds, no one will give you a refund and the servers will be gone too. So no game, but a pretty box and a matching beer coaster will be all you'll have.

But seriously, even if they release a DRM patch, do you really want to be in the position of owning a game that you have to install, then download how ever many megs of PATCH to make it run? Every time you reinstall it?

It would make more sense for everyone to take all the current copies back, get refunds, then wait until they're forced to issue a patched DVD. Then re-buy it. If the store gives you a hard time, take in a few printouts of some of the rapidly increasing number of Web articles about this failed game.

Golf Foxtrot · 03-08-10, 03:39 PM

Servers finally online UK 20:31GMT. Still have all savegames too.
SHV works but still can`t use AC2 for some reason!

Easy Tiger · 03-08-10, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RSColonel_131st

Right now, it's a horrible gray legal zone. Small customer can't sue large international game publisher. Small customer can't return defective software in the store he bought it. And certainly not online. Of course this simple means the large publishers can release broken goods all day long.

Yes and it's a travesty tbh. Ubisoft certainly seem to be pushing the envelope on how much a publisher can get away with.

I have to say I'm so glad I didn't buy this

but feel sorry for everyone who can't get in

Fincuan · 03-08-10, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by John Channing

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It's Ubisofts fault that the hackers can't defeat the DRM so the use of another method to prevent legitimate paying customers from enjoying their purchase IS PERFECTLY FAIR.

Did the people who bought he game give their money to a. Ubi or b. the hackers? That kind of decides who has the responsibility for the functionality of the service.

03-08-10, 03:27 PM	#153
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	Well, I'm definitely glad that my money stayed in the proverbial wallet with this one, it seems the numerous predictions of disaster were proved correct. Still, I'm sure the game is good....when you can play it! __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

03-08-10, 03:29 PM	#154
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	THE LOG IN!!! I got the log on screen, now will it let me log on. DUNT DUN DUN!!! whaaaaaaaaattttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its the Fing right user name and password you S** WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM (Yes, im angry, just got home from school and want to play my new game and I find this out... this is a load of BS... take this ubisoft... (puts middle finger up) __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

03-08-10, 03:29 PM	#155
Maltro Soundman Join Date: May 2007 Location: Near Lyon, France Posts: 141 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Incredible!!! My game works!!! Try yourself. At 9:27 PM Paris time. Thank you UBI to let me use your software! So nice... __________________ Erwin Rommel. 1890-1944. La guerre sans haine - War without hate.

03-08-10, 03:37 PM	#162
Fantasm Watch Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 16 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Returns I'd be seriously considering returning the game if I bought it. If Ubisoft folds, no one will give you a refund and the servers will be gone too. So no game, but a pretty box and a matching beer coaster will be all you'll have. But seriously, even if they release a DRM patch, do you really want to be in the position of owning a game that you have to install, then download how ever many megs of PATCH to make it run? Every time you reinstall it? It would make more sense for everyone to take all the current copies back, get refunds, then wait until they're forced to issue a patched DVD. Then re-buy it. If the store gives you a hard time, take in a few printouts of some of the rapidly increasing number of Web articles about this failed game.

03-08-10, 03:26 PM	#152
Davy TASB Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 5 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	What was that noise??? Was it the sound of someone from UBI apologising to its loyal customers for this debacle...... THOUGHT NOT.

03-08-10, 03:30 PM	#157
walsh2509 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 410 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	Anyone one know when the servers going to be back up ? Is the game down everywhere ? It is here in Scotland , is it the same in the rest of the UK and beyond.

03-08-10, 03:33 PM	#158
DragonRR1 Officer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: UK Posts: 246 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Apparently I'm one of the 5% of affected users. I haven't, however, seen a single post from anyone who can actually connect to the UBI servers. Odd isn't it! DOS attacks are nearly impossible to completely stop especially when the attackers are absolutely determined. UBI MUST either do the impossible or find some other method of reducing piracy.

03-08-10, 03:39 PM	#163
Golf Foxtrot Nub Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 2 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Servers finally online UK 20:31GMT. Still have all savegames too. SHV works but still can`t use AC2 for some reason!