The Frozen Baltic

[TarJak]

In a situation not seen since the mid 1980's, about 50 ships are frozen in the Baltic Sea due to icy conditions.

http://www.smh.com.au/environment/50...0305-pmbi.html

[frau kaleun]

In before "global warming" snarkage!

[August]

The poles will melt and the tropics will freeze. Equatorial glaciers will become so thick they slow down the earths rotation enough to add a couple of hours to the day. The mosquito count at my cabin will remain unchanged.

[frau kaleun]

Mass hysteria, dogs and cats living together...

No. No. They aren't realy iced in.
It's just everyone's imagination.

Just ask the Global WARMING "experts".

Same goes for all this "imaginary" snow.
Now. Let me watch the Global WARMING "experts" drive as though it's summer.
(But please, don't do it near me).

Three of those ships collided with each other when they were trying to break through the ice/get loose from the ice. They told the passengers to move to the right side of the boat and the collision was on the left side. Pretty amateurish stuff.

I guess there is no threat of sinking though. Boring.

Check west of the Gulf of Finland.

http://marinetraffic.com/ais/

[bookworm_020]

There not iced in, they just got carried away with snow cone production!

[Morts]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

No. No. They aren't realy iced in.
It's just everyone's imagination.

Just ask the Global WARMING "experts".

Same goes for all this "imaginary" snow.
Now. Let me watch the Global WARMING "experts" drive as though it's summer.
(But please, don't do it near me).

*facepalm*
im ashamed to live in the same country as you

[Highbury]

I can't help but think someone put that Google ad at the top on purpose...

[Schroeder]

Originally Posted by Snestorm

No. No. They aren't realy iced in.
It's just everyone's imagination.

Just ask the Global WARMING "experts".

Same goes for all this "imaginary" snow.
Now. Let me watch the Global WARMING "experts" drive as though it's summer.
(But please, don't do it near me).

Are you serious?
Oh come on no one ever said that global warming will drive out winter entirely. We are talking about a global AVERAGE temperature raising of just a few degrees Celsius. The weather is going to become more extreme in both directions. Or in simple words: If your summer is three degrees hotter than normal then your winter can be two degrees colder than normal and you still have a raised AVERAGE temperature.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Are you serious?
Oh come on no one ever said that global warming will drive out winter entirely. We are talking about a global AVERAGE temperature raising of just a few degrees Celsius. The weather is going to become more extreme in both directions. Or in simple words: If your summer is three degrees hotter than normal then your winter can be two degrees colder than normal and you still have a raised AVERAGE temperature.

I know, people are always jumping to conclusions, just because it's a bit cold in their part of the world.

In the meantime, I still wait to see the official temperature statistics for my region.

We're used to very cold and very snowy winters and since the beginning of the year, it has been exceptionally hot, we're almost one month ahead for the summer and that's no kidding.

[Bubblehead Nuke]

Originally Posted by Schroeder

Are you serious?
Oh come on no one ever said that global warming will drive out winter entirely. We are talking about a global AVERAGE temperature raising of just a few degrees Celsius. The weather is going to become more extreme in both directions. Or in simple words: If your summer is three degrees hotter than normal then your winter can be two degrees colder than normal and you still have a raised AVERAGE temperature.

I normally do not wade into politics and other BS, but that was not how the whole 'Global Warming' thing was sold to the world at large.

I see this type of statement used more and more to explain what is going on. It is not 'global warming', it is now 'climate change'. There is always a new improved slogan to justify someone elses opinion. Every hear the phrase 'If you don't like the weather wait a day (or a few hours)"? This is the weather and climate on a grand million year scale.

It seems like the revisionism of people gets more and more extreme when they find that their pet cause has become increasingly difficult to justify.

I used to have a link of a webpage that did NOTHING but link stories about global warming. It was HILARIOUS. They would have link stories published within DAYS of each other. One would directly contradict the other. I wish I could find it again just to spread the humor.

Now before you go all enviromentalist on me, I DO believe that there is Global Warming, Climate Change, or whatever you want to call it. I see the Earth as a large thermodynamic engine driven by the sun. If you look at weather as nothing more than the transfer of heat and energy from one location to another things make a lot more sense. You have the same amount of energy that is being distributed in different proportions(<- not the right word but it will do) based on many many variables. Unfortunately, you have people who do not know, understand, or refuse to acknowledge some of these variables.

The Earth will survive, of that I am certain. However, just like the millions of other species that once inhabited this globe, humanity just may become extinct due to changes in the enviroment that we could not adapt to.

To think that mankind can CHANGE the enviroment in any meaningful way considering the size and energy of the system is pure hubris.

Using this concern to influence and control people based on the lie that they have to do something about it is pure evil.

[Torvald Von Mansee]

Originally Posted by Morts

*facepalm*
im ashamed to live in the same country as you

Imagine what it's like to be an American, than!!!!

[Spoon 11th]

Even though the temperature has been below freezing constantly since beginning of december, it took a long time this year until the northern Baltic froze, since the water escaped through Danish channels due to wind direction and air pressure. Water level is one meter lower than usual, but when that movement stopped, ice accumulated very quickly.

http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/


About snow coverage then:



One would assume, that global warming, if it existed in any statistically significant way, would result the rain coming down in a water state of matter, not snow.

[antikristuseke]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead Nuke

I normally do not wade into politics and other BS, but that was not how the whole 'Global Warming' thing was sold to the world at large.

how many times must this be said before people listen?
Do not get your information about science from the media or alarmist mouthpieces, go read peer reviewed journals to see what scientists actually say.

I see this type of statement used more and more to explain what is going on. It is not 'global warming', it is now 'climate change'. There is always a new improved slogan to justify someone elses opinion. Every hear the phrase 'If you don't like the weather wait a day (or a few hours)"? This is the weather and climate on a grand million year scale.

It seems like the revisionism of people gets more and more extreme when they find that their pet cause has become increasingly difficult to justify.

I used to have a link of a webpage that did NOTHING but link stories about global warming. It was HILARIOUS. They would have link stories published within DAYS of each other. One would directly contradict the other. I wish I could find it again just to spread the humor.

Now before you go all enviromentalist on me, I DO believe that there is Global Warming, Climate Change, or whatever you want to call it. I see the Earth as a large thermodynamic engine driven by the sun. If you look at weather as nothing more than the transfer of heat and energy from one location to another things make a lot more sense. You have the same amount of energy that is being distributed in different proportions(<- not the right word but it will do) based on many many variables. Unfortunately, you have people who do not know, understand, or refuse to acknowledge some of these variables.

The Earth will survive, of that I am certain. However, just like the millions of other species that once inhabited this globe, humanity just may become extinct due to changes in the enviroment that we could not adapt to.

To think that mankind can CHANGE the enviroment in any meaningful way considering the size and energy of the system is pure hubris.

Using this concern to influence and control people based on the lie that they have to do something about it is pure evil.

While I don't really disagree with the majority of what you say, to assume that mankind has not affected the climate is naive at best. Yes, theclmate on earth was not static before humans, but we are having an effect on it.