The Reason Why DRM Didn't(!) Fail

[U-Bones]

I would disagree entirely with the comment below - IMO it is the consumers who have yet to realize that they are fighting a war that is already over, and they are simply being mopped up.

Everthing is about power, and control. Those in control will not stop consolidating power until every relevant person is either an ignorant or willing slave.

Ubi is just one of many interchangable and replacable faces of the evil empire, and the gaming and entertainment industries are only one of many fronts in the war. This is not your grandpa's war.

Originally Posted by Dowly

Another misinformed invidual trying to praise the gaming business' draconian efforts to control it's customers.

And no, I didn't pirate it, this has nothing to do with that. What this is all about is to make the gaming business realise they are fighting a war they can't win and that they should stop and put the money they use for their POS DRM's to the game instead.

[Apos]

Originally Posted by snapli

To quote (and add to) Neil:
Ubisoft: +1 (DRM) -1 (bugs) -1 (bad press) = -1
Pirates: -1
Consumers: -1 (DRM) -1 (bugs) +1 (no working illegal copies) = -1

So, only losers here ...?

Its mentioned wrong:

Players: -1 (DRM), -1 (bugs), -1 (SHV is arcadish, needed to modded) = -3
Pirates: -1 (till it will be cracked properly) = -1
Ubi: +1 (DRM), +5 (cash income from sells), -1 (bad press) = 5

cheers

[drtechno]

Sorry Snapli et. all.. I got ahead of myself, I just can't believe the ridiculous posts that I keep seeing that just downloadable content is not crackable. It sounds like my parents talking (or the intelligent UBI DRM staffers). SPORE downloads *ALL* of its content off the internet.. And that content is much more complex and varied than SH5. I'm pretty sure it has been cracked. You can tow the party line, but just like everyone has pointed out: The GAME has been cracked. Its only a matter of time before they have a couple play-throughs and get the mission files.

I just wish Ubi would throw in the white towel, remove the online full time requirement, and start focusing on fixing bugs.

Aside - I was using VAX on a DEC when I was 5 ;P

[Von Taticus]

I'm 33 and i remember using BBS's with a 2400 baud rate modem.

2400 baud !..... You were luckly! When I were a lad I had t' wind modem up wit t' handle, to get 110 baud! and then werk 36 hours a day

Yer try t' tel kids this 'terday ... (and they don't believe yer)

"Python"

[jwilliams]

Of cause it's crackable, but it takes time....

Ubi DRM is made to delay the pirates

games sales peak shortly after release, so ubi's DRM will allow them the time to sell the game.

Ubi's DRM is working.... and will work for quite awhile. sure it will eventaly get cracked. but SH5 will prob be in the bargan bin by then.

This also mean that Ubi wont be able to blame piracy for bad sales. then hopefully they will see that the cost of the DRM isnt worth it for the few extra sale they get....... we can only hope.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by snapli

To quote (and add to) Neil:

If you're going to quote him, you might want to get his name right first.

[Fincuan]

Originally Posted by jwilliams

Ubi's DRM is working.... and will work for quite awhile. sure it will eventaly get cracked. but SH5 will prob be in the bargan bin by then..

That might have been true about 48 hrs ago, but no more. In case you didn't notice the DRM is done.

[Herman]

Are you suggesting that it is now possible to play the game without any internet connection, whatsoever?

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by Fincuan

That might have been true about 48 hrs ago, but no more. In case you didn't notice the DRM is done.

The pirate version isnt the full game... the game needs code from the servers.

So technicly the game isnt cracked

Ubi's statement "its not complete"

Unless you can proves this is not the case. Then i would believe Ubi's statement.

*NOTE* Beware downloading pirated software can contain viruses and other nasty things

[ryuzu]

Originally Posted by drtechno

Aside - I was using VAX on a DEC when I was 5 ;P

Really - was it really dusty due to it's age? Or was this supposed to be a comment about computer expertise lol.

Anywho, back on topic a bit - there is one other problem in all this that reminds me of an amusing "bug" in SH3.

If you remember back to the heady days just after SH3 appeared, there were lots of bug reports including one where the crew changed from 2 to 3d. There were so many bugs this just sounded like yet another one, until the Ubi FAQ was updated to point out that this was, in fact a graphical demo of the copy protection at work.

Some of the bug reporters went silent while others protested their innocence. But the most interesting thing I thought, was that no one could tell the copy protection from regular bugs in the software.

So Ubi could just throw in the towel and proclaim there are no bugs in SH5 - it's just that we're all pirates getting getting the copy protection thrown at us for not having good enough internet connections....

Might explain why my morale resets, there's only one conversation with your crew members and of course why all the proper controls are missing!

r.

Originally Posted by snapli

All I'm saying is that people shouldn't laugh about UBI that much ("DRM failed on day 1" etc.). From their point of view, it (still?) works.

this is true but what is also true is because of the sad state the game is in the mods will have to rewrite and redo the entire game anyway so this supposed missing content wont be missed or needed after this is done by the mods.

i hope all pirates go to hell on the bullet train but if UBI had made the games content better then it would be something you dont want to live without and your arguement of missing out on whats missing would carry more weight.

for myself i need two key things before i buy sh5, no DRM online BS and a price point of $30 or less

[jwilliams]

Originally Posted by ryuzu

Really - was it really dusty due to it's age? Or was this supposed to be a comment about computer expertise lol.

Anywho, back on topic a bit - there is one other problem in all this that reminds me of an amusing "bug" in SH3.

If you remember back to the heady days just after SH3 appeared, there were lots of bug reports including one where the crew changed from 2 to 3d. There were so many bugs this just sounded like yet another one, until the Ubi FAQ was updated to point out that this was, in fact a graphical demo of the copy protection at work.

Some of the bug reporters went silent while others protested their innocence. But the most interesting thing I thought, was that no one could tell the copy protection from regular bugs in the software.

So Ubi could just throw in the towel and proclaim there are no bugs in SH5 - it's just that we're all pirates getting getting the copy protection thrown at us for not having good enough internet connections....

Might explain why my morale resets, there's only one conversation with your crew members and of course why all the proper controls are missing!

r.

LOL... yeah could be.... are you sure you didnt pirate your copy.

[Ships-R-Us]

[QUOTE=drtechno;1295316]Snapli.. I'm guessing you are over 50 and know very little about computers and the internet.

Well I'm over 60 and was using a model ASR33 and a model 30 in 1980 coupled to my 20mtr amateur radio station and communicating all over the world. I also built my own equipment aside from the TTY machines.

[RedChico]

Originally Posted by jwilliams

The pirate version isnt the full game... the game needs code from the servers.

So technicly the game isnt cracked

Ubi's statement "its not complete"

Unless you can proves this is not the case. Then i would believe Ubi's statement.

*NOTE* Beware downloading pirated software can contain viruses and other nasty things

Wanna bet it's fully cracked?
As long as you recieve data from the servers it's all (pirates) need to "complete" the crack.
It's quite logical.

Unless Jesus or God tells you the Key to play the game it will be cracked no matter how much millions you inject it.

Look at Paradox Intertaiment, look how they manage to grow so much without DRM's.


PS: Rise of Flight was also cracked.

PS2: final word, will not talk about it anymore.

[Deep Source]

UBi DRM is done! Fail!

Ubi deny the crack is a last hope for sell DRM,

Ubi only release a buged version of all games and wait the hackers have more job. Assassin's Creed II have more bugs and nofficial patchs. But the game works fine.

On one year all your guy's used the crack on yours notebooks!