What have we learned?

Turbografx · 03-04-10, 08:56 PM

Yeah, I find it amazing that there are bugs that have carried over from SH3. Five years pass and still the same bugs (e.g. underwater crew).

codmander · 03-04-10, 09:03 PM

well said.. someone needs to start from scratch.... soo glad I didnt buy this puppy

Overboard · 03-04-10, 09:11 PM

To the op, There Not going to, How many SH games have to come out befor you realise this DUH!!.. Dam".
What are you lost or just dreaming.

mookiemookie · 03-04-10, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Overboard

To the op, There Not going to, How many SH games have to come out befor you realise this DUH!!.. Dam".
What are you lost or just dreaming.

Next time don't type anything. You'll save the wear and tear on your keyboard and will have added just as much to the discussion.

Overboard · 03-04-10, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Next time don't type anything. You'll save the wear and tear on your keyboard and will have added just as much to the discussion.

Nah..Your just kidding"

Iron Budokan · 03-04-10, 09:26 PM

Very well said and thoughtful post. You make an excellent argument about comparing the subsequent iterations of this game to a house with a rickety foundation.

It's not like Ubi hasn't known about the bugs in question from /3 to /4 and now to /5. There really is no defensible argument they can give as to why the same ones continue to appear with every subsequent release of this game.

It's obviously a conscious decision on their part not to correct these glaring oversights, the same oversights and bugs that have plagued this series through many iterations. Which begs the question...WHY have they not fixed these things?

I'm afraid we will never have an answer to that one.

Ducimus · 03-04-10, 09:28 PM

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When will there be a new SH built from the ground up? When will the mistakes of legacy SH titles be washed away. When are they going to throw out the old code and bugs, and start fresh?

Realistic answer. Probably never. I'm surmising that existing code was used to save on costs and development time, and im also guessing that these projects not only have a deadlne, but a budget to stay within. SH3, is probably the last sub sim built from the ground up (at least im guessing it was). Were up to Sh5 now, so i think its a safe bet to say that If Ubi was going to develop a new sub sim from the ground up, they would have done it already. Then there's also the very distinct possibility that SH5 will be the last one made. I really doubt we'll see a SH6.

mookiemookie · 03-04-10, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

Were up to Sh5 now, so i think its a safe bet to say that If Ubi was going to develop a new sub sim from the ground up, they would have done it already. Then there's also the very distinct possibility that SH5 will be the last one made. I really doubt we'll see a SH6.

Exactly. If there was time given in the development cycle to create new code, I believe it would have been done. Reading between the lines in Dan's posts, it's pretty clear that he would love to do this but I'm assuming the time's not been given to the team to do so.

And as much as it sucks, I completely agree with your last statement. I don't think we'll see another SH from Ubi.

Iron Budokan · 03-04-10, 09:39 PM

I'm inclined to agree with what's being discussed here. Doubtful we will ever see new code for the game, else it would have already been done. Since that's probably true, this might very well be the last Silent Hunter title from Ubi.

Given their track record, and the increasingly deleterious shape this game is released in every time they come out with a new one, I can't say as I'm sorry about that.

I mean, it's to be expected. They pretty much shot themselves in the foot with this release if we are to believe the majority of posters who did buy the game, and who are angry and bitter and feel as if they've been taken for a ride.

Seafireliv · 03-04-10, 09:39 PM

Yea, but keep buying because by Silent Hunter XX they`ll iron the bugs out. Of course piracy will be eradicated by the 24\7 DRM which means Devs will have more money to make future SH`s better eh?

Hmmm. Somehow, I suspect, they`ll just keep the extra cash and just get richer while still bugged SH IX will need a tube hooked to your main artery 24\7 taking blood samples to confirm you are who you say you are.

But you guys just keep falling for it.

Good thing I have SHIV.

Adriatico · 03-04-10, 09:24 PM

GWX4 was the only solution... It should hve been started 6-8 months earlier...

We would have a modern simulation to play... and Devs&moders another 12-16 months to make the sim out of this...

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Many members were deligted to have x+1 version of GWX3 and keep the wolves occupied on chewing "dead body" - for a months and months and months...

When I heard that GWX 4 is recalled due to new project... I had a feeeling that I had to swallow a rattlesnake

If, in era of SH4, polishing GWX3 was OK > what is so wrong with release of GWX4 - with SH5 in kindergarten ???

THE_MASK · 03-04-10, 09:26 PM

I can see much potential in the modding of SH5 but if the same bugs are going to be there that i hated in SH3/4 then i give up .

03-04-10, 09:03 PM	#2
codmander Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: cape cod mass. Posts: 678 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	ubi well said.. someone needs to start from scratch.... soo glad I didnt buy this puppy

03-04-10, 09:26 PM	#6
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Very well said and thoughtful post. You make an excellent argument about comparing the subsequent iterations of this game to a house with a rickety foundation. It's not like Ubi hasn't known about the bugs in question from /3 to /4 and now to /5. There really is no defensible argument they can give as to why the same ones continue to appear with every subsequent release of this game. It's obviously a conscious decision on their part not to correct these glaring oversights, the same oversights and bugs that have plagued this series through many iterations. Which begs the question...WHY have they not fixed these things? I'm afraid we will never have an answer to that one. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

03-04-10, 09:39 PM	#9
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I'm inclined to agree with what's being discussed here. Doubtful we will ever see new code for the game, else it would have already been done. Since that's probably true, this might very well be the last Silent Hunter title from Ubi. Given their track record, and the increasingly deleterious shape this game is released in every time they come out with a new one, I can't say as I'm sorry about that. I mean, it's to be expected. They pretty much shot themselves in the foot with this release if we are to believe the majority of posters who did buy the game, and who are angry and bitter and feel as if they've been taken for a ride. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

03-04-10, 09:24 PM	#11
Adriatico Grey Wolf Join Date: May 2007 Location: Periscope depth Posts: 860 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	GWX4 was the only solution... It should hve been started 6-8 months earlier... We would have a modern simulation to play... and Devs&moders another 12-16 months to make the sim out of this... *** Many members were deligted to have x+1 version of GWX3 and keep the wolves occupied on chewing "dead body" - for a months and months and months... When I heard that GWX 4 is recalled due to new project... I had a feeeling that I had to swallow a rattlesnake If, in era of SH4, polishing GWX3 was OK > what is so wrong with release of GWX4 - with SH5 in kindergarten ??? __________________

03-04-10, 08:56 PM	#1
Turbografx Old Stormalong Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: The Gret Stet of Loosiana Posts: 232 Downloads: 104 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I find it amazing that there are bugs that have carried over from SH3. Five years pass and still the same bugs (e.g. underwater crew).

03-04-10, 09:11 PM	#3
Overboard Medic Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	To the op, There Not going to, How many SH games have to come out befor you realise this DUH!!.. Dam". What are you lost or just dreaming.

03-04-10, 09:39 PM	#10
Seafireliv Gunner Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 93 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	Yea, but keep buying because by Silent Hunter XX they`ll iron the bugs out. Of course piracy will be eradicated by the 24\7 DRM which means Devs will have more money to make future SH`s better eh? Hmmm. Somehow, I suspect, they`ll just keep the extra cash and just get richer while still bugged SH IX will need a tube hooked to your main artery 24\7 taking blood samples to confirm you are who you say you are. But you guys just keep falling for it. Good thing I have SHIV.

03-04-10, 09:26 PM	#12
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	I can see much potential in the modding of SH5 but if the same bugs are going to be there that i hated in SH3/4 then i give up .