Fireproof Superhuman Merchants

kylania · 03-04-10, 12:39 PM

These guys have been on fire for 9 hours. Two GIANT holes below the water line. Dead in the water. Yet somehow it won't sink. And look, dudes are just walking into the fire like it's not even there...

Can fire kill a ship? I've lit up three merchants like this, entire decks on fire and they never ever sink. It's a bit demoralizing.

ReFaN · 03-04-10, 12:49 PM

from my observations 'Cough' fire does nothing to the healthbars, i have them on for some reason, you just have to shoot until the health depletes and it goes boom.

kylania · 03-04-10, 01:22 PM

So there's no damage over time from fires spreading or flooding from gaping holes below the water line?

Ziggy · 03-04-10, 01:27 PM

Yeah it is frustrating. You either sink it or it isn't going to sink.

Will-Rommel · 03-04-10, 01:38 PM

Yeah bad design. We need natural sinking mechanics.

ReM · 03-04-10, 01:40 PM

Wans't this (fire not causing damage) the case with (stock) SHIII as well?

Iron Budokan · 03-04-10, 01:40 PM

It's an arcade game, guys. No need for sinking mechanics with an arcade game. That's why the devs included "health bars" so you'd know you have to keep plugging away until all the hitpoints are gone.

It's total arcade. Else, why include health bars at all?

Sailor Steve · 03-04-10, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReM

Wans't this (fire not causing damage) the case with (stock) SHIII as well?

Yes it was, and no mod could ever fix it.

In real life there were ships that burned for days, and then the fire went out by itself.

But those were rare cases, and I can tell you from first-hand experience that a fire on board is a sailor's worst nightmare. Fire can indeed eat through the toughest steel, and many ships during the war were abandoned because once the fire is out of control it's almost a foregone conclusion that the ship will sink. Of course the problem of having nowhere to go that isn't burning also plays a part.

Dowly · 03-04-10, 01:44 PM

Same goes for merchants keeping up with the convoy... AGAIN.

Last night, I hit a convoy and 3 merchants were burning with two having 2 holes and one bigger 3 holes on it's hull, yet they still kept with the convoy (the largest had it's foredeck almost submerged

).

kylania · 03-04-10, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dowly

Same goes for merchants keeping up with the convoy... AGAIN.

Last night, I hit a convoy and 3 merchants were burning with two having 2 holes and one bigger 3 holes on it's hull, yet they still kept with the convoy (the largest had it's foredeck almost submerged

).

Had that happen last nite as well. Today's patrol I lost out on three ships since they'd catch fire, have huge holes and would otherwise be in the finest of health (I have bars turned off so no idea how much damage they thought they took).

It's really discouraging having like 12 torpedoes and only getting 2 kills per patrol, when those I had to use the deck gun to finish off.

AVGWarhawk · 03-04-10, 02:58 PM

As Sailor Steve points out...secondary damage by fire has never existed in SH3/4 and now 5. Bummer.....

03-04-10, 12:39 PM	#1
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	Fireproof Superhuman Merchants These guys have been on fire for 9 hours. Two GIANT holes below the water line. Dead in the water. Yet somehow it won't sink. And look, dudes are just walking into the fire like it's not even there... Can fire kill a ship? I've lit up three merchants like this, entire decks on fire and they never ever sink. It's a bit demoralizing. __________________

03-04-10, 12:49 PM	#2
ReFaN Grey Wolf Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Sweden Posts: 831 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	from my observations 'Cough' fire does nothing to the healthbars, i have them on for some reason, you just have to shoot until the health depletes and it goes boom. __________________ Liverpool is my relegion, Anfield is my church. True believers never walk alone.

03-04-10, 01:22 PM	#3
kylania Silent Hunter Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 3,528 Downloads: 118 Uploads: 0	So there's no damage over time from fires spreading or flooding from gaping holes below the water line? __________________

03-04-10, 01:38 PM	#5
Will-Rommel Chief Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 320 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Yeah bad design. We need natural sinking mechanics. __________________ -Fighting is a lifestyle-

03-04-10, 01:40 PM	#6
ReM Commodore Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Brewsky, Galore Posts: 618 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Wans't this (fire not causing damage) the case with (stock) SHIII as well? __________________ Daddy cool

03-04-10, 01:27 PM	#4
Ziggy Torpedoman Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 111 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	Yeah it is frustrating. You either sink it or it isn't going to sink.

03-04-10, 01:40 PM	#7
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	It's an arcade game, guys. No need for sinking mechanics with an arcade game. That's why the devs included "health bars" so you'd know you have to keep plugging away until all the hitpoints are gone. It's total arcade. Else, why include health bars at all? __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

03-04-10, 01:44 PM	#9
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,053 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	Same goes for merchants keeping up with the convoy... AGAIN. Last night, I hit a convoy and 3 merchants were burning with two having 2 holes and one bigger 3 holes on it's hull, yet they still kept with the convoy (the largest had it's foredeck almost submerged ).

03-04-10, 02:58 PM	#11
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	As Sailor Steve points out...secondary damage by fire has never existed in SH3/4 and now 5. Bummer..... __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road