Does anyone not have the loss of morale on loading a game bug?

[remowilliams]

Out of all the nonsense in the current version, this zero morale bug is an absolute game killer.

[Ducimus]

I wonder if its possible to disable morale degredation altogether? Somewhere, there should be something like "Morale Coef = 0.X". My first guess on where to look would be the UPC files for the individual submarines. Probably in the compartment definitions therein. Assuming that did work, you might have to restart your game in order for it to take effect, or assume a new command. If SH5 is anything like SH4, the game reads info for your sub from the data files ONCE, and then saves a working copy of that in your save game. From there it reads from that working copy, and doesn't look in the data directory again until there's a reason to, like aquiring a new sub. Then it takes that data, and makes a new working copy.

edit:
Morale Coef could also be in the crew configuration files, where ever those are.

[etheberge]

Well Ducimus since you so graciously volunteered all this information, perhaps you'd like to take a stab at it?

My guess would be "Sleepcoef" or "EfficiencyDenominator". I'm too tired to test now but I'm sure CCIP will be along soon


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[Ducimus]

nothing for morale eh? Rest is just effeciency rating, Try the crew file, or whatever file the crew data is stored in. My guess would be somewhere in data/UPCData/

There's probably two such directories. One for americans, the other for germans.

[etheberge]

From crewmembers.upc in UPCCrewData

[CrewMember 1]
ID= Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Torpedo
NameDisplayable= Kurt Faust
DescriptionDisplayable= Crew-Member-Kurt-Faust-Description
CrewMemberNameIDLinks= NULL
DateOfBirth= NULL
Head= 5
Voice= NULL
Tatoo= NULL
Rank= Jr-NCO-Rank-1
CurrentExperience= 0
SpecialAbilities= Ability-Increase-Torpedo-SpeedDamage, -1, Ability-Reduce-Torpedo-Loading-Time, -1, Ability-Reduce-Torpedo-DudChance, -1, Ability-Active-Preheat-Torpedo, -1, Ability-Active-Overcharge-Torpedo, -1
Morale= 5
MoralePool= 5
PointsInvestedIn= 0
Medals=
Patrols=0
Hitpoints= 5
RenownCost= 250
Notes= ; should be editable by the player
;DamageDescription1=DamageType,MinDamage, MaxDamage, ChanceFactor, Message, DamageDestination, EfficiencyReduction, medic_skill,recovery_time_in_hours
DamageDescription1= NULL, 0, 0.2, 1, Minor Wound, NULL, 0.2, 0.3, 48
DamageDescription2= NULL, 0, 0.2, 1, It's just a scratch, NULL, 0.05, 0.1, 4
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DamageDescription4= NULL, 0.4, 0.8, 0.1, Liver wound, HumanDamageArmwound, 1, 0.7, 240
DamageDescription5= NULL, 0.6, 1, 1, Sucking chest wound, HumanDamageLegWound, 1, 0.8, 240


and then same guy from the campaign save crewmembers.upc


[CrewMember 1]
ID=Crew-Jr-NCO-Rank-1-Torpedo
NameDisplayable=Kurt Faust
DescriptionDisplayable=Kurt was born and raised in Hamburg, and joined the Kriegsmarine when he was 16. He is confident and a ladies man. He always hides dirty magazines and collects American pin-ups. His nickname, "steck sie rein", means "put her in", and refers to the torpedoes he loads, but of course it's also a sexual innuendo. He always has a dirty joke to tell and often makes fun of the younger crew, especially Benno. Kurt is not a real Nazi, but gets a kick out of sinking other ships.
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DateOfBirth=0000-00-00 00:00:00
Head=5
Voice=0
Tatoo=0
Rank=Jr-NCO-Rank-1
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Selected=false

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Level=4
TreeType=Kriegsmarine
NameDisplayable=Obermaat
ShortNameDisplayable=Omaat
Image=4
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LeadershipAdd=0.000000
LevelUp=Base
MaxSpecialAbilities=0
AvailableSpecialAbilities=
GetSpecialAbilityChance=0.000000
EfficiencyMod=1.000000
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DescriptionWhenPlayerDoesntHaveTheRank=NULL

I haven't seen this bug personally but I don't doubt that it's widespread. Then again I only played the game for about half an hour since I got it.

it probably doesnt get saved at all or resets when ET phones home, has anyone checked this with online saves turned off

[Sunfighter]

First time post, but Id like to report i have this bug as well. Though on both reloads ive done so far, the morale seemed to rebound back to 100% within the first couple minutes of playing. Mostly it was back to 100% before I was half way though the Kiel canal

[sergei]

Originally Posted by Webster

it probably doesnt get saved at all or resets when ET phones home, has anyone checked this with online saves turned off

That's an interesting point. We still don't really know what happens to our files when we synchronize with the central server,

[CCIP]

As I noted in earlier post, that is exactly what I tested today. Doesn't make a difference, sadly.

Originally Posted by CCIP

As I noted in earlier post, that is exactly what I tested today. Doesn't make a difference, sadly.

can you see anything in the save game files to suggest it is saved there as it would have to be for it not to start new each time?

[CCIP]

Originally Posted by Webster

can you see anything in the save game files to suggest it is saved there as it would have to be for it not to start new each time?

Yeah, as I mentioned on the previous page, I've looked. It's under ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc in each save folder, if you choose to keep games locally. It does save the morale, but not load it correctly.

[etheberge]

Originally Posted by sergei

That's an interesting point. We still don't really know what happens to our files when we synchronize with the central server,

Even if I choose to not save my games online through the Ubi launcher, I still get the message that they were synchronized with the server when I start the game. And they still come back if I delete them from the folder manually. Who knows what's going on there?

What a mess

Originally Posted by CCIP

Yeah, as I mentioned on the previous page, I've looked. It's under ActiveUserPlayerUnits.upc in each save folder, if you choose to keep games locally. It does save the morale, but not load it correctly.

CCIP i thought I noticed something about a console being available when the modding functions were enabled? Maybe we can reset the moral from there within the game by typing in a command? Could be worth a shot.

[Turbografx]

How they hell did they not find this bug and the camera lock out one while testing the game? Einfach wahnsinnig...

[USS Albacore]

I just tried every possible configuration of loading, saving, game settings, save settings, new game, not new game etc. Still getting the zero morale issue every time after reloading.

[etheberge]

CCIP,

I just saw this setting that Ducimus was musing about related to the moral coefficient. It seems to be in basic.cfg

[CREW_0] ;SEAMAN
MoraleMin=0.30
MoraleMax=0.60
MoraleStep=0.05
FatigueMin=0
FatigueMax=0.5
FatigueStep=0.2
CoefMorale=0.4
CoefFatigue=0.2
QualEffect=1
Hp=10
Wounded=-0.02
Dead=-0.05
SunkShips=0.1
TorpedoHit=0.05
Experience=0


There's a section for every crew member. Could be worth to reset to 0 (or 1? I don't know how that value is used) and test with a new campaign and save game or however you've been testing so far.