SH5 Unfinished - I'll wait for a GWX type mod to fix it

Koinonos · 03-03-10, 07:41 PM

I cannot fathom what the Dev's were thinking when they built SH5. All of the useful information and abilites were not just hidden but in many cases removed outright - And we're talking about features that were in SH3 and SH4 that they knew the community highly valued.

No ability to get depth under keel, no compass and rudder settings, no battery and fuel levels, no ability to change directions while keeping your original course settings laid in, no advanced torpedo settings, and the list goes on. Oh yes, and let's not forget bugs galore as pointed out in the SH5 bug thread. While I could understand them wanting to perhaps hide them in advanced menus to make it more 'consolely', the fact they are missing altogether is bewildering.

I sincerely hope that the GWX team or other modders will rise to the occasion and make this a playable game.

As for myself - I feel truly let down by the SH dev team because these decisions clearly indicate that they do not listen or see what the mod community does as a way to infer the highly desired and enjoyable features of the Silent Hunter series. I feel betrayed, misunderstood, and I can only assume they knowingly did so.

I am hearby uninstalling SH5 and going back to SH3/GWX and SH4 that have been made true gems of games. I'll check back on SH5 Mod progress in a year or so and see how things are shaping up.

Drifter · 03-03-10, 07:47 PM

I agree with your assessment.

But you're going to be waiting a very, very long time. That's how messed-up the game currently is.

sergei · 03-03-10, 07:55 PM

Agreed. It is a bit of a stunted game at the moment.

If you are waiting for a GWX or TMO, prepare to wait a long time

CCIP · 03-03-10, 07:57 PM

On the other hand, let's not get too skeptical on that either. Both SHIII and SHIV had major holes plugged within a couple of weeks of release. Test versions of fairly major mods would pop up by late april; May saw the release of final (vanilla) patches and the first playable versions of 'realism mega-mods' usually came around June-July.

Capt.Warner · 03-03-10, 07:58 PM

I will keep playing for sure.Would be nice for a supermod to come out though and fix these bugs and add more FEATURES THE GAME SHOULD OF HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

malkuth74 · 03-03-10, 08:00 PM

They have no choice but to fix this game.. Or they can hang up the SH series starting today.

The game has lots of issues. And it needs to be fixed. And from what I heard so far from some of the modders.. They are not touching this until they get some things worked out in patches.

This game needs lots of work. LOTS.

gutted · 03-03-10, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt.Warner

I will keep playing for sure.Would be nice for a supermod to come out though and fix these bugs and add more FEATURES THE GAME SHOULD OF HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE!!

The best course of action for any Mega-Modders would be to wait and see what the first few patches do.

No point in spending time trying to fix or bring something back into the game that the devs may already be working on.

Able72 · 03-03-10, 08:10 PM

The devs work on features? What fantasy land are you living in? All they are interested in doing is tossing together some eye candy and making a few pretty teaser movies knowing they can win over us suckers with empty promises and release a game not 1/4 finished with what it should be. Knowing the mod community will come to their rescue and take the aborted fetus of a game they have turned out and give it life.

Sorry, I waxed cynical. I'm sure it will all be ok in the end.

Drifter · 03-03-10, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Able72

The devs work on features? What fantasy land are you living in? All they are interested in doing is tossing together some eye candy and making a few pretty teaser movies knowing they can win over us suckers with empty promises and release a game not 1/4 finished with what it should be. Knowing the mod community will come to their rescue and take the aborted fetus of a game they have turned out and give it life.

Sorry, I waxed cynical. I'm sure it will all be ok in the end.

Well, after purchasing SH5, I feel like I just had an expensive date with a beautiful, shallow blond babe. She was pretty to look at, but the conversations went nowhere. And I didn't even get laid!

I feel dirty and ripped-off at the same time.

V.C. Sniper · 03-03-10, 10:09 PM

blame the ubi suits for rushing the devs and not giving them enough time.

sergei · 03-03-10, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CCIP

On the other hand, let's not get too skeptical on that either. Both SHIII and SHIV had major holes plugged within a couple of weeks of release.

Yep, good point CCIP.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a day one patch.

UrPeaceKeeper · 03-03-10, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sergei

Yep, good point CCIP.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a day one patch.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=162843

CCIP · 03-03-10, 10:25 PM

yeah, we had a day 1 patch. That didn't quite do it...

But it was same with SHIII. 1.1 in SHIII actually pretty much just fixed one graphics glitch (with the UZO); 1.2 came down fairly soon afterward and actually made some obvious changes.

Agustus · 03-03-10, 10:44 PM

Yeah, I just tried another 90 minutes of the game after about 2 hours last night and I give up. It really is an unfinished piece of work that looks like it was just slapped together with clearly no consideration to the mods and popular game mechanics in SHIII and IV that made those games great.

After recently playing two other sequels that were absolutely rock solid - Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2, this is a complete embarrassment for Ubisoft.

I'm going to uninstall the game for now to free up hard drive space and check back in about six months.

Major disappointment - I was expecting this game to be one of my gaming highlights of 2010.

Good luck to the mods! They're going to need it....

mobucks · 03-03-10, 10:52 PM

I come into extremely limited ammounts of money these days, i spent the better part of it to buy this game that will most likey be shelved for a few weeks/months before it can be considered to me as in a playable state, so i totally agree with you guys. Really tired of buying games in beta stage of development.

03-03-10, 07:41 PM	#1
Koinonos Gunner Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 99 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	SH5 Unfinished - I'll wait for a GWX type mod to fix it I cannot fathom what the Dev's were thinking when they built SH5. All of the useful information and abilites were not just hidden but in many cases removed outright - And we're talking about features that were in SH3 and SH4 that they knew the community highly valued. No ability to get depth under keel, no compass and rudder settings, no battery and fuel levels, no ability to change directions while keeping your original course settings laid in, no advanced torpedo settings, and the list goes on. Oh yes, and let's not forget bugs galore as pointed out in the SH5 bug thread. While I could understand them wanting to perhaps hide them in advanced menus to make it more 'consolely', the fact they are missing altogether is bewildering. I sincerely hope that the GWX team or other modders will rise to the occasion and make this a playable game. As for myself - I feel truly let down by the SH dev team because these decisions clearly indicate that they do not listen or see what the mod community does as a way to infer the highly desired and enjoyable features of the Silent Hunter series. I feel betrayed, misunderstood, and I can only assume they knowingly did so. I am hearby uninstalling SH5 and going back to SH3/GWX and SH4 that have been made true gems of games. I'll check back on SH5 Mod progress in a year or so and see how things are shaping up.

03-03-10, 07:57 PM	#4
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	On the other hand, let's not get too skeptical on that either. Both SHIII and SHIV had major holes plugged within a couple of weeks of release. Test versions of fairly major mods would pop up by late april; May saw the release of final (vanilla) patches and the first playable versions of 'realism mega-mods' usually came around June-July. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 07:58 PM	#5
Capt.Warner Lieutenant Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere in the Atlantic Ocean Posts: 262 Downloads: 60 Uploads: 0	I will keep playing for sure.Would be nice for a supermod to come out though and fix these bugs and add more FEATURES THE GAME SHOULD OF HAD IN THE FIRST PLACE!! __________________

03-03-10, 08:00 PM	#6
malkuth74 Sonar Guy Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 377 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	They have no choice but to fix this game.. Or they can hang up the SH series starting today. The game has lots of issues. And it needs to be fixed. And from what I heard so far from some of the modders.. They are not touching this until they get some things worked out in patches. This game needs lots of work. LOTS. __________________

03-03-10, 08:10 PM	#8
Able72 Captain Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Somewhere in the North Atlantic Posts: 343 Downloads: 299 Uploads: 0	The devs work on features? What fantasy land are you living in? All they are interested in doing is tossing together some eye candy and making a few pretty teaser movies knowing they can win over us suckers with empty promises and release a game not 1/4 finished with what it should be. Knowing the mod community will come to their rescue and take the aborted fetus of a game they have turned out and give it life. Sorry, I waxed cynical. I'm sure it will all be ok in the end. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink, others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

03-03-10, 07:47 PM	#2
Drifter Frogman Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 308 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	I agree with your assessment. But you're going to be waiting a very, very long time. That's how messed-up the game currently is.

03-03-10, 07:55 PM	#3
sergei Sea Lord Join Date: May 2008 Location: London UK Posts: 1,788 Downloads: 405 Uploads: 29	Agreed. It is a bit of a stunted game at the moment. If you are waiting for a GWX or TMO, prepare to wait a long time

03-03-10, 10:09 PM	#10
V.C. Sniper Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	blame the ubi suits for rushing the devs and not giving them enough time. __________________ I only need one torpedo.

03-03-10, 10:25 PM	#13
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	yeah, we had a day 1 patch. That didn't quite do it... But it was same with SHIII. 1.1 in SHIII actually pretty much just fixed one graphics glitch (with the UZO); 1.2 came down fairly soon afterward and actually made some obvious changes. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

03-03-10, 10:44 PM	#14
Agustus Swabbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 13 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah, I just tried another 90 minutes of the game after about 2 hours last night and I give up. It really is an unfinished piece of work that looks like it was just slapped together with clearly no consideration to the mods and popular game mechanics in SHIII and IV that made those games great. After recently playing two other sequels that were absolutely rock solid - Mass Effect 2 and Bioshock 2, this is a complete embarrassment for Ubisoft. I'm going to uninstall the game for now to free up hard drive space and check back in about six months. Major disappointment - I was expecting this game to be one of my gaming highlights of 2010. Good luck to the mods! They're going to need it....

03-03-10, 10:52 PM	#15
mobucks Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 713 Downloads: 209 Uploads: 0	I come into extremely limited ammounts of money these days, i spent the better part of it to buy this game that will most likey be shelved for a few weeks/months before it can be considered to me as in a playable state, so i totally agree with you guys. Really tired of buying games in beta stage of development.