How do you determine "Rudder" Input w/ new interface...???

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-10, 02:48 PM

Yes, my first post. Yes, I am a modder. Been tailoring SH3/SH4 to my likes since they came out. But this SH5 is a freakin mess - this is totally unacceptable

Where's the freakin manual? That PDF they included is pure sh*t

There is a way to enable the SH3/SH4 style controls everyone is familiar with. I've successfully enabled them but it's not even close to being perfect yet.
Their is left over code from SH4 that the devs used scripts to 'hide' their blunders. WTF?!?!?!?! Sorry you all, but this is an unfinished product that we are beta testing and going to have to fix.
I can see where the battery levels, O2, etc. are but it's all FUBAR! It's going to take a lot of work to get this right. I'm rewriting some of the page files and scripts to try and sort things out and get stuff working.
Back to work fixing a broken game

I'll try and post some screenshots showing that yes, it is possible to add these later.

Charlie901 · 03-03-10, 02:54 PM

Without the rudder guage or compas it's impossible to have any idea what your turn rate is underwater without constantly watching the Nav Map.

Totally unaccenptable and unrealistic for a retail release version #5 in the series if you ask me!!!!

John Channing · 03-03-10, 03:15 PM

So a little pop-up gauge that foats in the air is realistic, while checking the actual gauges in the conning tower is unacceptable?

Got it!

JCC

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-10, 04:28 PM

notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet. The compass works just like it did in SH3/4.....

Still sorting things out.....

piri_reis · 03-03-10, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet. The compass works just like it did in SH3/4.....

Still sorting things out.....

Nice!

Welcome aboard.

Bilge_Rat · 03-04-10, 07:23 AM

you can find all the dials you need all over the boat.

conning tower:

command room:

sonar station:

sergei · 03-03-10, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

So a little pop-up gauge that foats in the air is realistic, while checking the actual gauges in the conning tower is unacceptable?

Trouble is, the gauges tell you depth, battery charge, speed, dive plane angle etc.
None of 'em tell you your rudder setting.
Therefore I think his complaint is justified.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDarkWraith

notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet.

Good start, keep it up mate. This game needs modders like none before!

FIREWALL · 03-03-10, 04:39 PM

Thx DW

Now when do you start on a functioning UZO for surface shots ?

TheDarkWraith · 03-03-10, 04:46 PM

I see everything is there just needs to be sorted out and fixed. This thing it totally FUBAR'd to no end.....

Currently trying to make a python script to renumber the page files (i.e. [G3F Ixx] - so that it will parse the file and start renumbering all the items starting at 1 and incrementing the count with each one). I'm not all that good with python so it's slowing me up some. I'm having to totally slice and dice the page files.....hence why I need something to renumber them.

coasterdigi · 03-03-10, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Channing

So a little pop-up gauge that foats in the air is realistic, while checking the actual gauges in the conning tower is unacceptable?

Got it!

JCC

What, you don't see floating gauges in front of you all the time? Am I the only one?

Using the interior gauges would be fine, but a lot of them don't work. As far as I can tell, the only compasses in the sub that work are the ones at the helmsman's station and the sonar station, and there's no way to order a heading, anyway, outside of creating a waypoint. Some of the other 'dummy' compass repeaters always indicate north (conning tower, topside, engine room, etc), and some of those don't even have a bearing card in the center or them, instead having a generic dial that goes from 0-10 (incidentally, the texture for which is called "hudfake.")

This game is really, really unfinished.

That being said, I'm still enjoying it, although I've had to accept that I have to play a bit more 'arcadey' until the modders take over.

PurpleCity · 03-03-10, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coasterdigi

Using the interior gauges would be fine, but a lot of them don't work. As far as I can tell, the only compasses in the sub that work are the ones at the helmsman's station and the sonar station, and there's no way to order a heading, anyway, outside of creating a waypoint. Some of the other 'dummy' compass repeaters always indicate north (conning tower, topside, engine room, etc), and some of those don't even have a bearing card in the center or them, instead having a generic dial that goes from 0-10 (incidentally, the texture for which is called "hudfake.")

So your saying if I'm submerged, I can't set a course without plotting waypoints on a map? What about talking to the navigation officer?

03-04-10, 07:23 AM	#6
Bilge_Rat Silent Hunter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: standing watch... Posts: 3,856 Downloads: 344 Uploads: 0	you can find all the dials you need all over the boat. conning tower: command room: sonar station: __________________

03-03-10, 02:48 PM	#1
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	Yes, my first post. Yes, I am a modder. Been tailoring SH3/SH4 to my likes since they came out. But this SH5 is a freakin mess - this is totally unacceptable Where's the freakin manual? That PDF they included is pure sh*t There is a way to enable the SH3/SH4 style controls everyone is familiar with. I've successfully enabled them but it's not even close to being perfect yet. Their is left over code from SH4 that the devs used scripts to 'hide' their blunders. WTF?!?!?!?! Sorry you all, but this is an unfinished product that we are beta testing and going to have to fix. I can see where the battery levels, O2, etc. are but it's all FUBAR! It's going to take a lot of work to get this right. I'm rewriting some of the page files and scripts to try and sort things out and get stuff working. Back to work fixing a broken game I'll try and post some screenshots showing that yes, it is possible to add these later.

03-03-10, 02:54 PM	#2
Charlie901 XO Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL Posts: 413 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Without the rudder guage or compas it's impossible to have any idea what your turn rate is underwater without constantly watching the Nav Map. Totally unaccenptable and unrealistic for a retail release version #5 in the series if you ask me!!!!

03-03-10, 03:15 PM	#3
John Channing Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 1998 Posts: 1,846 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 5	So a little pop-up gauge that foats in the air is realistic, while checking the actual gauges in the conning tower is unacceptable? Got it! JCC

03-03-10, 04:28 PM	#4
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	notice the compass right above which is fully functional but I still can't get it to switch to rudder mode yet. The compass works just like it did in SH3/4..... Still sorting things out.....

03-03-10, 04:39 PM	#8
FIREWALL Eternal Patrol Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: CATALINA IS. SO . CAL USA Posts: 10,108 Downloads: 511 Uploads: 0	Thx DW Now when do you start on a functioning UZO for surface shots ?

03-03-10, 04:46 PM	#9
TheDarkWraith Black Magic Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11,962 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 5	I see everything is there just needs to be sorted out and fixed. This thing it totally FUBAR'd to no end..... Currently trying to make a python script to renumber the page files (i.e. [G3F Ixx] - so that it will parse the file and start renumbering all the items starting at 1 and incrementing the count with each one). I'm not all that good with python so it's slowing me up some. I'm having to totally slice and dice the page files.....hence why I need something to renumber them.