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HanSolo78 · 03-01-10, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Aces

Hi HanSolo,

Thank you for your great sub pens mod, can you please confirm that there's no problem with CTD when starting a career in the pens at St.Nazaire, I always CTD there but Norway works absolutely fine.

Thanks

Regards

Aces

Hi!

Definitely works - at least in WAC4.1!
I tested now several starts in different years.
Memomy usage about 2,2Gb free Ram.

@DD

Could you please write me a pm with the changes of the additional WAC fix?

greetings
Han

Captain Nemo · 03-01-10, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Nemo

Started a new patrol with this mod and made a save in AN49 and exited. The save reloaded fine but at first the engine animation wasn't working, ordered a change in speed and all is well again.

My rig is getting on a bit:

3 GHz P4
3 GB of RAM
ATI x1650 pro 512 MB video card
XP Home Edition - No memory switches being used.

Mods enabled:

GWX 16km atmosphere
GWX Enhanced Damage Effects
GWX Merged Campaign
Torpedo Damage Final Ver 2.0
Lifeboats & Debris V4
Hitman U505 Compass Graphic Ver 1.0
Waterstream & Exhaust Combi Ver 2.3 for GWX
Ultimate Aircraft Sound Mod
SH4 Style Flags for GWX
Unofficial Rockets Fix GWX 3.0 16Km
New Clearsky Clouds
Q Ship Mod GWX 3.0
FM NewInterior V1.0

As mentioned earlier, the only change I made to the Interior mod was reverting back to stock/GWX sounds.

Nemo

Further to my earlier post I enabled Raptors Uniform Version 2.0 mod in addition to those listed above. It was a mod too far, CTD loading an in port before mission save. As others have said the CTD's with thie Interior mod must be memory related.

Nemo

sabretwo · 03-01-10, 11:37 AM

I think Han Solo might be right about the Memory issue. I also am having intermittent CTDs when loading campaigns...

1. Standard GWX 3.0 (Starting Position: Wilhelmshaven) - No problem.

2. Standard GWX 3.0 (Starting Position: Kiel) - CTD at end of loading

3. Med Mod for GWX 3.0 (Much smaller than GWX campaign) - CTD at end of loading

4. Single Missions, GWX 3.0 - No problem.

I think it might have something to do with the sophisitication of the graphics in the near vicintity rather than total file size of the missions/campaign. My Med Mod for GWX is much smaller than the GWX standard campaign yet I can launch from Wilhelmshaven in Standard GWX 3.0 with no problem. Launching near Salamis in my mod crashes every time.

I will try an experiment tonight and try starting the same campaign but at sea and see if that makes a difference.

HanSolo78 · 03-01-10, 11:42 AM

For testing purposes a hint from myself... starting carreers or single missions will demand more system memory because more units will be loaded.

Aces · 03-01-10, 11:46 AM

Thanks gentleman that's very helpful. I will try again tonight, I'm really looking to get as many of these great mods working together as possible. The Norway base is very much smaller than St. Naziare. I will post any finding here. BTW I'm not running the St. Nazaire GWX3 sleuses mod.

Much appreciate the feedback, BTW HanSolo I'm running GWX3 I did edit my sh3.sdl as Reece kindly advised and I now get the new sounds in the pens except, as Reece mentioned the hammer.wav sound which was missing from my Sounds folder so I created my own hammer on metal sound which I think sounds pretty good, but it still didn't play?.

Many thanks again, such amazing mods.

Regards

Aces

Flopper · 03-01-10, 11:59 AM

I've completed 2 patrols with my mod setup, listed maybe 20 or so posts back... working fine, looks great (I did nuke the sound for this 2nd patrol.) No issues.

Very, very nice work!

grimes · 03-01-10, 12:01 PM

I loved the mod, but I keep getting kernel errors on many of the single player missions. So looks like i'm not going to use it until I get my Ram upgraded from 3gb to 4gb. Hopefully that will fix it.

Dronston · 03-01-10, 12:12 PM

I kept having problems and like said it turns out there are certain ports that will cause a ctd. I was trying to start in St.Nazaire but kept crashing. Starting in Wilhelmshaven does work. Also with several mods enabled.

By the way, I'm running Win 7 Home Premium 64 bits with 4 GB DDR3 RAM, so it happens on a 7 platform too.

piri_reis · 03-01-10, 12:35 PM

Guys it's definitely a memory problem.
You all shouldn't expect to enable this on top of your heavily modded SH3 and make it work right away.
For me I have lots of extra ships, campaign additions that cost memory, and without the (/3GB switch and exe patch) it will CTD on campaign start.

So I recommend to people that have the hardware and that use XP (4GB RAM), to try those memory solutions.

For other people, you might have to decide on which mods to use. You could disable big memory consuming mods to get the Interiors to work. It's just not plug&play in my experience.

raymond6751 · 03-01-10, 01:35 PM

This is great! Thank you for what would seem to be a major piece of work.
The only issue I had was the extra loud sound of that diesel engine.

I found out that it is only loud if you visit the engine room and come out of it. It could be a mistake but after about a half hour I went below again to the control room and it was again reasonable.

I have only just started out in career mode, about 50 km out, but so far all is well.

Again, nice job! SH3 has now pushed ahead of SH4 and might even be better than SH5. But SH5 is another story...

brett25 · 03-01-10, 01:55 PM

as far as CTDS im convinced that some of them are due to commander. I have tested and concluded that when I try to load older careers and try to start a new patrol I get CTD when Commander launches the game. I can create a new career and then don't have the crash. In other words the game engine has no problem loading all the data and handling the memory, however there is some conflict with commander and careers. Can anyone verify this?

brett25 · 03-01-10, 02:16 PM

Quote:

..... So many assumptions and nothing enough reliable about issue.. yet.

its very strange, in my case im getting more convinced it really has to do with mods..but...not any particular mod, rather a "pile on" effect...where at some point having too many, breaks the camels back. In other words my CTDs are mod related (not commander so much) however, not any one mod in particular....

also this is for sure, the hatches do not open in my old career, but in a new career, they open

Dronston · 03-01-10, 02:30 PM

I can only say that with ONLY GWX and the Int. mod it still CTDS when trying to start your career in St. Nazaire. Try Wilhelmshaven and it works like a charm...Didn't try any other ports. Doesn't matter if I start the game using commander or not.

When I found out it does work in wilhelmshaven I started to activate mods again and it still works.

Damo · 03-01-10, 03:27 PM

This all reminds me of Apollo 13, where they have to work out a way to get the ship to work while staying within a strict voltage limit to avoid it blowing a fuse.

They managed it though...

JCWolf · 03-01-10, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brett25

its very strange, in my case im getting more convinced it really has to do with mods..but...not any particular mod, rather a "pile on" effect...where at some point having too many, breaks the camels back. In other words my CTDs are mod related (not commander so much) however, not any one mod in particular....

also this is for sure, the hatches do not open in my old career, but in a new career, they open

No mate, I am using SH3 Commander and the game loads and runs fine...

More the Commander doesn't change big things over the game, in fact
the commander can be seen as a SH3 Launcher that haves some extra tweaking and options, it does not have direct impact on you game
loading cause it changes files that is already there in the game or Mods,
and it increases campaign situations....

The problem here must be your Machine power, or Graphic card, or
the usual XP memory issue...

I am using the Commander and the game loads fine, yes it takes a
lot more to load, and yes it pushes a lot more for mi machine and
hardware, cause I can ear it...lol

03-01-10, 11:42 AM	#139
HanSolo78 Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Austria Posts: 1,842 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 3	For testing purposes a hint from myself... starting carreers or single missions will demand more system memory because more units will be loaded. __________________

03-01-10, 12:12 PM	#143
Dronston Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 263 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I kept having problems and like said it turns out there are certain ports that will cause a ctd. I was trying to start in St.Nazaire but kept crashing. Starting in Wilhelmshaven does work. Also with several mods enabled. By the way, I'm running Win 7 Home Premium 64 bits with 4 GB DDR3 RAM, so it happens on a 7 platform too. __________________ Live to fight another day!

03-01-10, 12:35 PM	#144
piri_reis Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Istanbul, Turkiye Posts: 715 Downloads: 115 Uploads: 0	Guys it's definitely a memory problem. You all shouldn't expect to enable this on top of your heavily modded SH3 and make it work right away. For me I have lots of extra ships, campaign additions that cost memory, and without the (/3GB switch and exe patch) it will CTD on campaign start. So I recommend to people that have the hardware and that use XP (4GB RAM), to try those memory solutions. For other people, you might have to decide on which mods to use. You could disable big memory consuming mods to get the Interiors to work. It's just not plug&play in my experience. __________________ Lt.z.S. Barbaros Hayreddin, U-35, 2nd Flot/Kiel, Type VIIB Oct.29.1939, 2nd Patrol Eastern English Waters Running SH5/TWOS

03-01-10, 01:35 PM	#145
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Wunnerful Wunnerful This is great! Thank you for what would seem to be a major piece of work. The only issue I had was the extra loud sound of that diesel engine. I found out that it is only loud if you visit the engine room and come out of it. It could be a mistake but after about a half hour I went below again to the control room and it was again reasonable. I have only just started out in career mode, about 50 km out, but so far all is well. Again, nice job! SH3 has now pushed ahead of SH4 and might even be better than SH5. But SH5 is another story... __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

03-01-10, 01:55 PM	#146
brett25 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Oakland CA, USA Posts: 737 Downloads: 570 Uploads: 0	as far as CTDS im convinced that some of them are due to commander. I have tested and concluded that when I try to load older careers and try to start a new patrol I get CTD when Commander launches the game. I can create a new career and then don't have the crash. In other words the game engine has no problem loading all the data and handling the memory, however there is some conflict with commander and careers. Can anyone verify this? __________________ http://shmf.larsbundgaard.dk/index.p...1tn5&board=7.0

03-01-10, 11:37 AM	#138
sabretwo Frogman Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 295 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	I think Han Solo might be right about the Memory issue. I also am having intermittent CTDs when loading campaigns... 1. Standard GWX 3.0 (Starting Position: Wilhelmshaven) - No problem. 2. Standard GWX 3.0 (Starting Position: Kiel) - CTD at end of loading 3. Med Mod for GWX 3.0 (Much smaller than GWX campaign) - CTD at end of loading 4. Single Missions, GWX 3.0 - No problem. I think it might have something to do with the sophisitication of the graphics in the near vicintity rather than total file size of the missions/campaign. My Med Mod for GWX is much smaller than the GWX standard campaign yet I can launch from Wilhelmshaven in Standard GWX 3.0 with no problem. Launching near Salamis in my mod crashes every time. I will try an experiment tonight and try starting the same campaign but at sea and see if that makes a difference.

03-01-10, 11:46 AM	#140
Aces Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 1,140 Downloads: 211 Uploads: 0	Thanks gentleman that's very helpful. I will try again tonight, I'm really looking to get as many of these great mods working together as possible. The Norway base is very much smaller than St. Naziare. I will post any finding here. BTW I'm not running the St. Nazaire GWX3 sleuses mod. Much appreciate the feedback, BTW HanSolo I'm running GWX3 I did edit my sh3.sdl as Reece kindly advised and I now get the new sounds in the pens except, as Reece mentioned the hammer.wav sound which was missing from my Sounds folder so I created my own hammer on metal sound which I think sounds pretty good, but it still didn't play?. Many thanks again, such amazing mods. Regards Aces

03-01-10, 11:59 AM	#141
Flopper Weps Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Asheville, NC, USA Posts: 356 Downloads: 107 Uploads: 0	I've completed 2 patrols with my mod setup, listed maybe 20 or so posts back... working fine, looks great (I did nuke the sound for this 2nd patrol.) No issues. Very, very nice work!

03-01-10, 12:01 PM	#142
grimes Bosun Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 66 Downloads: 102 Uploads: 0	I loved the mod, but I keep getting kernel errors on many of the single player missions. So looks like i'm not going to use it until I get my Ram upgraded from 3gb to 4gb. Hopefully that will fix it.

03-01-10, 02:30 PM	#148
Dronston Lieutenant Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 263 Downloads: 68 Uploads: 0	I can only say that with ONLY GWX and the Int. mod it still CTDS when trying to start your career in St. Nazaire. Try Wilhelmshaven and it works like a charm...Didn't try any other ports. Doesn't matter if I start the game using commander or not. When I found out it does work in wilhelmshaven I started to activate mods again and it still works. __________________ Live to fight another day!

03-01-10, 03:27 PM	#149
Damo Captain Join Date: May 2009 Location: Forever stuck in Data folder... Posts: 482 Downloads: 259 Uploads: 0	This all reminds me of Apollo 13, where they have to work out a way to get the ship to work while staying within a strict voltage limit to avoid it blowing a fuse. They managed it though... __________________ The owl and the pussycat went to sea in a beautiful pea-green boat. It only took one T1 eel to convince that boat not to float.