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View Poll Results: Rate SH5!
Amazing! Best UBoat simulation I have ever played. 17 19.10%
Good but not perfect, though I definately like to play it. 31 34.83%
Dissapointing in some aspects. Will hope it gets better with mods. 26 29.21%
Bad. Shouldn't have bought it/will be collecting dust in my shelf 15 16.85%
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Old 03-01-10, 10:36 AM   #1
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Folks will always try to push their agendas through polls. It's one of the wonderful things about the Internets.
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Old 03-02-10, 10:20 AM   #2
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Folks will always try to push their agendas through polls. It's one of the wonderful things about the Internets.

This is totally ridiculous paranoia from you and some others. I am not buying SH5 while this draconian DRM exists, but i most certainly haven`t voted here to derail anything because it don`t apply to me since I don`t have the game. And i`m not the only one. I wasn`t even going to post in this thread until I saw your silly statement.

I guess if the Poll showed that 99% of people loved the game you`d be happy with that even if people voted who hadn`t bought it.

Get a grip.
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Old 03-02-10, 10:28 AM   #3
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This is totally ridiculous paranoia from you and some others. I am not buying SH5 while this draconian DRM exists, but i most certainly haven`t voted here to derail anything because it don`t apply to me since I don`t have the game. And i`m not the only one. I wasn`t even going to post in this thread until I saw your silly statement.

I guess if the Poll showed that 99% of people loved the game you`d be happy with that even if people voted who hadn`t bought it.

Get a grip.
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Old 03-02-10, 10:35 AM   #4
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This is totally ridiculous paranoia from you and some others. I am not buying SH5 while this draconian DRM exists, but i most certainly haven`t voted here to derail anything because it don`t apply to me since I don`t have the game. And i`m not the only one. I wasn`t even going to post in this thread until I saw your silly statement.

I guess if the Poll showed that 99% of people loved the game you`d be happy with that even if people voted who hadn`t bought it.

Get a grip.
I am one of those who are hugely disappointed by the game and Neal accused me that I don't have the game and asked me in a rude manner to prove him. Maybe I should start a poll with a title something like this, since it seems to be polls time anyway: "What do you think, should I embarrass Neal by posting a picture with me and the game or I shouldn't?" ?
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I am one of those who are hugely disappointed by the game and Neal accused me that I don't have the game and asked me in a rude manner to prove him. Maybe I should start a poll with a title something like this, since it seems to be polls time anyway: "What do you think, should I embarrass Neal by posting a picture with me and the game or I shouldn't?" ?
If you think you have something to gain from it, by all means prove your claim.

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The novelity of this game will wear off in about 6 mo's.
As with III and 4, and hence, mods.

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It's sad what could've been. After the 4th I expect hopefully there will be some honest posters who will also express their disapointment and not just be an asskisser.
I don't think there's too many people who haven't expressed disappointment. I know I have. I'm not throwing the baby out with the bathwater, though, because I see the potential in this game from the modding tools.

All in all, I think it's a good compromise - Ubi gets to cater to the masses by making a Hollywood-ish game, while at the same time giving us sim fans modding tools aplenty so we can turn it into what we want.
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Old 03-02-10, 11:02 AM   #6
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Default Map question

Not sure, if it was mentioned or asked before..

I would appreciate if someone could answer the following:

All screenshots I saw so far of the in game map show latitude and longitude but no grid reference.

Are positions in radio messages given in l&l, KM grid or can you set them to one or the other? Does SH5 uses the grid map at all?

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Old 03-02-10, 11:09 AM   #7
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If you think you have something to gain from it, by all means prove your claim.
No, I don't have something to gain from that and even I am not the biggest fan of the owner of the forum, I respect him enough not to put him in an embarrassing position in which he should pay me apologies. That wouldn't be a very good position for the owner of the forum to the public perception. I am pretty pissed already that I've thrown my money down the toilet.
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No, I don't have something to gain from that and even I am not the biggest fan of the owner of the forum, I respect him enough not to put him in an embarrassing position in which he should pay me apologies. That wouldn't be a very good for the owner of the forum to the public perception. I am pretty pissed already that I've thrown my money down the toilet.
Neal has a tough hull, I don't think he'll be embarrassed at all. But I still think you should if only to show that there are people that have bought it and do have a negative opinion of it.
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Old 03-02-10, 11:27 AM   #9
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No, I don't have something to gain from that and even I am not the biggest fan of the owner of the forum, I respect him enough not to put him in an embarrassing position in which he should pay me apologies. That wouldn't be a very good position for the owner of the forum to the public perception.
I seriously doubt most posters here would support you over Neal or even expect him to apologize. If you are not happy with this forum, you are always free to start your own and pay for it out of your own pocket as Neal does...

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I am pretty pissed already that I've thrown my money down the toilet.
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Simply horrible, arcade RPG style game ...
I'm surprised you rushed out to buy it so quickly or why you would be disapointed by what you found...I'm sure Ubisoft is happy though...
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I'm surprised you rushed out to buy it so quickly...
... especially after leaving a trail of threads saying you wouldn't buy it.
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Old 03-02-10, 10:53 AM   #11
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This is totally ridiculous paranoia from you and some others. I am not buying SH5 while this draconian DRM exists, but i most certainly haven`t voted here to derail anything because it don`t apply to me since I don`t have the game. And i`m not the only one. I wasn`t even going to post in this thread until I saw your silly statement.

I guess if the Poll showed that 99% of people loved the game you`d be happy with that even if people voted who hadn`t bought it.

Get a grip.
Paranoia?

There had been many cases of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support your ............don't buy SH5'' and threads about ''boycott SH5'' that been closed quickly.

So since this is a secret vote, I don't see any reason why those few people would quit this behaviour.

Unless I missed something I did not see any case of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support the SH franchise, buy SH5''

There is always the possibility that people vote without even trying it, particularly when this is a secret vote (no matter very good or very bad).
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Paranoia?

There had been many cases of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support your ............don't buy SH5'' and threads about ''boycott SH5'' that been closed quickly.

So since this is a secret vote, I don't see any reason why those few people would quit this behaviour.

Unless I missed something I did not see any case of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support the SH franchise, buy SH5''

There is always the possibility that people vote without even trying it, particularly when this is a secret vote (no matter very good or very bad).
So what? There's been many posts of people saying how much they will love this game before they even played it and people saying that they would buy it no matter what to support the series. And not to mention the fact that Ubisoft people (who are the ones with an agenda) can easily create an account to vote. I'm not saying that there aren't people pissed enough to vote Bad when they haven't even played it, but the opposite possibility is there too. So please stop with this witch hunt accusing people based on your hunch (which does amount to paranoia) just because more people voted less favorably than YOU wanted them to.
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Old 03-02-10, 11:33 AM   #13
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Paranoia?

There had been many cases of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support your ............don't buy SH5'' and threads about ''boycott SH5'' that been closed quickly.

So since this is a secret vote, I don't see any reason why those few people would quit this behaviour.

Unless I missed something I did not see any case of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support the SH franchise, buy SH5''

There is always the possibility that people vote without even trying it, particularly when this is a secret vote (no matter very good or very bad).
So what? There's been many posts of people saying how much they will love this game before they even played it and people saying that they would buy it no matter what to support the series. And not to mention the fact that Ubisoft people (who are the ones with an agenda) can easily create an account to vote. I'm not saying that there aren't people pissed enough to vote Bad when they haven't even played it, but the opposite possibility is there too. So please stop with this witch hunt accusing people based on your hunch (which does amount to paranoia) just because more people voted less favorably than YOU wanted them to.

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Paranoia?

There had been many cases of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support your ............don't buy SH5'' and threads about ''boycott SH5'' that been closed quickly.

So since this is a secret vote, I don't see any reason why those few people would quit this behaviour.

Unless I missed something I did not see any case of people trying to influence the bying decision of members here by posting threads about ''support the SH franchise, buy SH5''

There is always the possibility that people vote without even trying it, particularly when this is a secret vote (no matter very good or very bad).
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OK, it seems that there are many of you who don't believe that I have the game. Before giving you the proof, do you have the guts to say that you will apologize to me and to all that you've insulted in this crazy SH5 frenzy after that?
And by the way, the vote is not secret anymore.
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OK, it seems that there are many of you who don't believe that I have the game. Before giving you the proof, do you have the guts to say that you will apologize to me and to all that you've insulted in this crazy SH5 frenzy after that?
And by the way, the vote is not secret anymore.
I hope you aren't putting me in that category. I take people at their word until proven otherwise. I only suggested you "prove it" it order to show others that automatically won't/don't believe you or anyone else that voted negatively actually have it. Maybe we should also ask that those that have voted "Amazing! Best UBoat simulation I have ever played." also post a picture proving that they have it? (this is an attempt at humor!)
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