DW selling techniques a joke ?

[Kaptain Lord Aaron]

Originally Posted by MarkShot

One thing I can say is that I may well buy DW in the future. This is as opposed to SHIII which no matter how good it might be with or without mods; it has Starforce insidiously buried within it. (I would much rather continue to play AOD, SH1, and SH2/PA - then risk the health of my PC or compromise my principles for a game.)

Markshot why not buy DW, I play it all the time. I do bring out the sh2 once and a while though.

[Beer]

Originally Posted by John Channing

Good old Skybird.

Never use 5 words when there are 500 lying around doing nothing.

JCC

LOL try 928 words, 4982 characters (including spaces) and about a dozen errors.

Thank God for Word. Else I may have had to read the post to count it.

Cheers
Beer

[Kapitan]

john im unemployed but i did a bit of sales and a few other things i kinda ran a little buisness in school and college selling things

at the moment im unemployed its very hard to find a job cause of me age and also "lack of experiance"

[Bellman]

Some nice pithy comments from John which I think many of us should take to heart. But then it doesnt apply to us does it

John wrote:-

Or put another way, some people never let their lack of knowledge keep them from forming and expressing an opinion.

But, as usual, you seem to spend a little too much time typing and not quite enough reading.

Never use 5 words when there are 500 lying around doing nothing.

Bang on target John.

How many dally here instead of playing/designing - I think its called ' Liking the sound of your own voice.'

Gullty as accused Mi Lud. :hmm:

[John Channing]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

john im unemployed but i did a bit of sales and a few other things i kinda ran a little buisness in school and college selling things

at the moment im unemployed its very hard to find a job cause of me age and also "lack of experiance"

Well perhaps you should garner a bit more experience before casting aspersions on people's careers?

JCC

[Kapitan]

im not casting what ever on other people if you read its my opinion nothing to do with other people in fact no one person is singled out and i do not comment on one person i refer to all

my opinion is just my thoughs its not to cause flaming be taken offencively nor is it to be taken the wrong way !

as the saying goes were entitled to our own oppinion what democracy is made of

[timmyg00]

Originally Posted by Kapitain

im not casting what ever on other people if you read its my opinion nothing to do with other people in fact no one person is singled out and i do not comment on one person i refer to all

my opinion is just my thoughs its not to cause flaming be taken offencively nor is it to be taken the wrong way !

as the saying goes were entitled to our own oppinion what democracy is made of

No offense, K, but would you do us all a favor and buy a box of punctuation marks? They're cheap, I promise... :P

TG

[Kapitan]

what is a box of punctuation marks ?

[Bellman]

Agreed. But dont let it stop the enthusiasm K.

Lot of sales guys here - someday we explain to you about the 'bullsh^t' - its called 'selling the sizzle not the sausage'

Now I guess if I turned on the old tap I could sell ice even to you.
:rotfl:

[Kapitan]

i have enough ice thankyou unless you got ice maker 3000 in not intrested

[Bellman]

I know, but you can never have too much ice.

Now you are an expert on ice - right ?
So of course someone with your experience knows that there are many, many types of ice.
Even expert eskimos can distinguish between many forms of snow.

I guess you enjoy a tipple of vodka now and then ( more now than then eh K?) Imagine this now
as someone with a taste for the odd drop of gin I can put my hands on ice cubes all ready to go with lemon pieces frozen in.

Now think what this means when you are having a drink with friends - no frigging about slicing lemons,
no drinking time wasted and the incredulous looks of admiration, particularly from the ladies.

You seem the sort of guy who would relish the glow of beeing centre stage with this neat little trick

This is made for you and will be with you in a couple of days.
Dont worry about payment that will be deferred.

See what I mean about sizzle ? :rotfl:

[MarkShot]

I guess we're sprinting and drift ... so, I'll drift.

My background was/is computer systems design. Back in the days of the Internet Bubble, I left Wall St. ... to work in the new media. Prior to that I was in charge of data warehousing at a major bank. Someone asked me how I could leave such a prominent instutition and I responded "100 years from now no one will talk about or remember the release of Oracle 8, but they will remember how society was changed by emergence of a world wide computer network that will have no less an impact than the printing press did".

So, among the positions I held was Director of Technology for a major Interactive Agency. An Interactive Agency was brand new species that attempted to combine traditional advertising/marketing with the new technology of the Internet. Every corporation was scrambling to have an online presense and we were there to deliver. We had two main wings of the company Creative and Technology. I have never worked and probably never will work in an environment with two such diverse cultures. The struggle of those two cultures was very much one of the key themes that underpin the success or failure of the business.

Now, looking back, I am still an engineer at heart. The only perception that is my reality is hard specs - no gloss or gimmicks will get me to buy something ... I just want to see case studies, statistics, and data points. The concept designers, artists, graphics staff, and copy writers, I met were incredibly talented people who taught me a lot. But the engineering culture has been deeply ingrained in me and possibly even before taking my first programming class there was a predisposition from an interest in science in an analytical approach.

It might be interesting to see where many wargamers fall on the spectrum of being analytical versus being more perception (audio/visual/concept/intuitive) driven.

[Bellman]

Wow thats a real party-pooper Mark - just having a little fun (I thought)

Try selling technical gear to engineers - you need both analytical skills and perceptive persuasion skills.
But after becoming the youngest Regional Manager for a national manufacture then Sales Manager
for a smaller outfit, I saw the light in mid-life and started my own business.

Never looked back and the only selling I've done for 'many' years is
persuading my wife I really do need a new PC.

Just leave you with a thought - one very perceptive lady posted a short time ago about the importance of multi-tasking and intuition
and how vital those characteristics are to the ART of sonar.

My role in the latter part of my life has entailed 'spinning plates' - you know the stage act. En route from flight sims to Harpoon I spent a year (about) with ATC sims (ATC Sim/Xavius ).As I had been in ATC in the RAF this gave me a real buzz.

I like the challenge of successfuly processing several challenging tasks and I'm sure that's why we lall ike SC/DW.

[Kapitan]

hmmm maybe i buy it maybe not

[Bellman]

Just a little fun K.

If you have a fridge with an ice-cube tray chop up the lemon into pieces that fit the cube partitions and add water-
Hey presto ice and a slice in one go. Free - no catches.

Now vodka can be adulterated by adding to gin - but I can of like it that way.
But thats in party mode - not often.
Mainly I'm a beer man or this summer Carlsberg Exports been kinda filling the garage. (I'm told!)