Napoleon Total War. I believe it's out. No excitement here?

Biggles · 02-27-10, 11:12 AM

Still, the troops reload faster, so for me this hasn't been such a big loss as of yet...

tater · 02-27-10, 11:54 AM

The "drop in battles" idea is brilliant!

THAT is what Ubi should have been doing with DRM. Require a connection, but give something useful. Imagine if you were playing SH, and your game (via a setting you make) pauses and prompts you to ask if you'd like to take over an AI sub in a wolfpack convoy attack in someone else's campaign!

Or allowed you to take over an escort that has a submarine contact in someone else's campaign.

AI would never be the same. Anyone who has played a FPS game vs real people knows that even with 99% AI, even one real player in the mix changes everything.

tater

joegrundman · 03-08-10, 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tater

The "drop in battles" idea is brilliant!

THAT is what Ubi should have been doing with DRM. Require a connection, but give something useful. Imagine if you were playing SH, and your game (via a setting you make) pauses and prompts you to ask if you'd like to take over an AI sub in a wolfpack convoy attack in someone else's campaign!

Or allowed you to take over an escort that has a submarine contact in someone else's campaign.

AI would never be the same. Anyone who has played a FPS game vs real people knows that even with 99% AI, even one real player in the mix changes everything.

tater

i'd like to say that this is an extraordinary and brilliant idea. It should be heard by people in the position to realise it

stabiz · 03-16-10, 07:51 PM

I finally got this thing up and running properly (HD5870 + XP + Napoleon = agony) and I have to say this game "owns" Empire. The fun factor is back! Dammit, NTW is going to steal lots of hours from me.

Task Force · 03-16-10, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by stabiz

I finally got this thing up and running properly (HD5870 + XP + Napoleon = agony) and I have to say this game "owns" Empire. The fun factor is back! Dammit, NTW is going to steal lots of hours from me.

Yep, this game is good, After I complete my Prussian campaign in ETW (World domination still havent managed to capture every region in europe yet) then Ill really start messing with NTW.

Camaero · 03-19-10, 01:16 PM

I'm having A LOT of fun terrorizing the filthy, snail eating French and ruling the seas with the Royal Navy. If anyone dares to piss me off I will destroy their merchant shipping and blockade all ports until I'm ready to launch a glorious and unstoppable invasion! Muahahaha. That damn Napoleon just started rolling out the first steam ships though... it made me all the more excited when I sunk one!

Once this campaign is over I'm going to give it a go as the French to teach those English dogs a lesson. Ta mere suce des ours dans la foret!

By the way... I started the game on "medium" difficulty... but I find my land battles a bit too easy. I can attack pretty much anyone (as the Brits) with a much smaller force and get away with it. Anyone else have this problem? I'm worried that if I switch to hard I'll *never* win any battles!

I can't wait for some kind of expansion for this game. I'd love to be able to play as Spain or America... even though America wasn't really in much of a position to do anything at the time (other than defend itself)... how about letting us invade America then? Open the world up damnit! Other than that... game is A++.

Raptor1 · 03-20-10, 11:38 AM

I hate playing with battle difficulty over medium, it doesn't make the AI any smarter, just gives them unfair bonuses.

Pushing up the campaign difficulty is sometimes fun because it makes the AI more aggressive, though.

Raptor1 · 02-27-10, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Biggles

Still, the troops reload faster, so for me this hasn't been such a big loss as of yet...

It's a huge loss in the feel and authenticity.

First, it drops any need to keep your units together. Before you couldn't run anywhere you want because it would disorder your units and you would have to wait more before you could unleash the first volley, now once a man is in position it could just fire away.

Second, firing drills were a major sign of army disciplne, which was one of the most deciding factors in warfare at the time (Well, fire by rank won't really be historical, but 2-line massed volleys would be I believe. At least have the second rank fire also, right now it just sits there...). Also, platoon fire was the signature British army tactic at the time, so not having it kinda ruins the effect...

Otherwise I have to say I quite like the game.

nikimcbee · 02-27-10, 05:24 PM

I've played throught the Italian camp.

I muffed it the first time (ran out of time

) So I started over. I didn't really realize/ take advantage of the changing building types until it was too late

. I went through 3/4 of the game sans artillery

. And I'm mr arty!

I liked the fact that you have the option to occupy it peacfully or do it the Genghis Khan way.

I'd need to play it more to form an opinion on the ai. I do like the cannonball impact marks from cannonfire. I'd love to play this on a high end system, and turn all the setting to "max"

. I think it looks great at medium. I love the uniforms.

I've done one sea battle

. seems pretty much the same as the last, but I'm not really into the age of sail type fighting.

Biggles · 02-27-10, 05:52 PM

Oh I love the seabattles. Yes, they're pretty much the same as in Empire, but with bigger ships, meaning more cannons!

Also, the little detail that the camera shakes when near an explosion really makes hte seabattles seem more epic. One broadside really feels like a wall of death.

I love the game. Playing as GB atm. My armies are mostly sent to Italy to divert the french forces from Austria/Prussia, and my fleet mops up any resistance in the English Channel. During July 1809 I had two great seabattles against the french, Nelson did Trafalgar X2, except he survived!

Discosanta · 02-27-10, 06:02 PM

I like the fact that I don´t have to wait minutes between turns like I had to in Empire. I tried the Italy campaign, but it was i little too staged for my tastes. I HATE time limits in games, it is too much stress. I enjoy the coalition campaign much more.

Task Force · 02-27-10, 08:06 PM

JA!!! Just got back from Best Buy.

Installing, MOVE FASTER COMPUTER!!!!

Also picked up MTW 2 while I was there.

tater · 02-27-10, 10:33 PM

The screenshake on the videos I've seen looked terrible to me, I'd mod it out before even looking at that, lol.

Nordmann · 02-27-10, 10:36 PM

It's a fantastic game, everything Empire should have been and a bit more besides. Gone are the cloned rosters, the identical troops; each faction has unique units with authentic uniforms and equipment. The engine has been revamped, with new effects (such as terrain scarring) being just one of the many improvements.

If you haven't bought it yet, I suggest you do so, you won't be disappointed!

02-27-10, 11:12 AM	#1
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Still, the troops reload faster, so for me this hasn't been such a big loss as of yet... __________________

03-16-10, 07:51 PM	#4
stabiz Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Norway Posts: 4,224 Downloads: 14 Uploads: 0	I finally got this thing up and running properly (HD5870 + XP + Napoleon = agony) and I have to say this game "owns" Empire. The fun factor is back! Dammit, NTW is going to steal lots of hours from me. __________________

03-19-10, 01:16 PM	#6
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I'm having A LOT of fun terrorizing the filthy, snail eating French and ruling the seas with the Royal Navy. If anyone dares to piss me off I will destroy their merchant shipping and blockade all ports until I'm ready to launch a glorious and unstoppable invasion! Muahahaha. That damn Napoleon just started rolling out the first steam ships though... it made me all the more excited when I sunk one! Once this campaign is over I'm going to give it a go as the French to teach those English dogs a lesson. Ta mere suce des ours dans la foret! By the way... I started the game on "medium" difficulty... but I find my land battles a bit too easy. I can attack pretty much anyone (as the Brits) with a much smaller force and get away with it. Anyone else have this problem? I'm worried that if I switch to hard I'll never win any battles! I can't wait for some kind of expansion for this game. I'd love to be able to play as Spain or America... even though America wasn't really in much of a position to do anything at the time (other than defend itself)... how about letting us invade America then? Open the world up damnit! Other than that... game is A++. __________________

03-20-10, 11:38 AM	#7
Raptor1 Navy Seal Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Stavka Posts: 8,211 Downloads: 13 Uploads: 0	I hate playing with battle difficulty over medium, it doesn't make the AI any smarter, just gives them unfair bonuses. Pushing up the campaign difficulty is sometimes fun because it makes the AI more aggressive, though. __________________ Current Eastern Front status: Probable Victory

02-27-10, 05:24 PM	#9
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I've played throught the Italian camp. I muffed it the first time (ran out of time) So I started over. I didn't really realize/ take advantage of the changing building types until it was too late. I went through 3/4 of the game sans artillery. And I'm mr arty! I liked the fact that you have the option to occupy it peacfully or do it the Genghis Khan way. I'd need to play it more to form an opinion on the ai. I do like the cannonball impact marks from cannonfire. I'd love to play this on a high end system, and turn all the setting to "max". I think it looks great at medium. I love the uniforms. I've done one sea battle. seems pretty much the same as the last, but I'm not really into the age of sail type fighting. __________________

02-27-10, 11:54 AM	#2
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The "drop in battles" idea is brilliant! THAT is what Ubi should have been doing with DRM. Require a connection, but give something useful. Imagine if you were playing SH, and your game (via a setting you make) pauses and prompts you to ask if you'd like to take over an AI sub in a wolfpack convoy attack in someone else's campaign! Or allowed you to take over an escort that has a submarine contact in someone else's campaign. AI would never be the same. Anyone who has played a FPS game vs real people knows that even with 99% AI, even one real player in the mix changes everything. tater

02-27-10, 05:52 PM	#10
Biggles Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Sweden (I'm not a Viking...) Posts: 3,529 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Oh I love the seabattles. Yes, they're pretty much the same as in Empire, but with bigger ships, meaning more cannons! Also, the little detail that the camera shakes when near an explosion really makes hte seabattles seem more epic. One broadside really feels like a wall of death. I love the game. Playing as GB atm. My armies are mostly sent to Italy to divert the french forces from Austria/Prussia, and my fleet mops up any resistance in the English Channel. During July 1809 I had two great seabattles against the french, Nelson did Trafalgar X2, except he survived! __________________

02-27-10, 06:02 PM	#11
Discosanta Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Norway Posts: 7 Downloads: 224 Uploads: 0	I like the fact that I don´t have to wait minutes between turns like I had to in Empire. I tried the Italy campaign, but it was i little too staged for my tastes. I HATE time limits in games, it is too much stress. I enjoy the coalition campaign much more.

02-27-10, 08:06 PM	#12
Task Force Rear Admiral Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: SPACE!!!! Posts: 10,142 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	JA!!! Just got back from Best Buy. Installing, MOVE FASTER COMPUTER!!!! Also picked up MTW 2 while I was there. __________________ Task Force industries "Taking control of the world, one mind at a time"

02-27-10, 10:33 PM	#13
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The screenshake on the videos I've seen looked terrible to me, I'd mod it out before even looking at that, lol.

02-27-10, 10:36 PM	#14
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	It's a fantastic game, everything Empire should have been and a bit more besides. Gone are the cloned rosters, the identical troops; each faction has unique units with authentic uniforms and equipment. The engine has been revamped, with new effects (such as terrain scarring) being just one of the many improvements. If you haven't bought it yet, I suggest you do so, you won't be disappointed! __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells