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Heretic · 02-26-10, 10:59 PM

Thanks for taking the time to show us this stuff. When the connection was restored, did the game resume at the point where it left off or did it require you to reload from a save?

crashed97tsi · 02-26-10, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Heretic

Thanks for taking the time to show us this stuff. When the connection was restored, did the game resume at the point where it left off or did it require you to reload from a save?

It resumed where the game left off, but to be honest this crap from Ubi is doing something totally unacceptable. Out of curiosity, I shut down the game and tried to disable my adapter with everything else running. This is the result:

So, the Ubisoft Cloud DRM is not allowing me to change a setting in MY COMPUTER. They are effectively taking control of that setting on my computer whenver their program is in use.

This is a BIG BIG deal to me, I've actually stopped playing to research this issue further. None of my other programs do this. As you can see from the screenshots, Steam has been running in the background the whole time.

I'm getting what I deserved for not doing more research. At least its supporting SH5 I guess.

Heretic · 02-26-10, 11:10 PM

Sorry to hear you weren't aware of it. It's been a bit of a hot topic here. We do appreicate you letting us know how it works. I'll quit pestering you now and let you get back to your game.

The game resumes when connection is restored, without losing your progress. That's a big relief.

difool2 · 02-26-10, 11:12 PM

Kudos for deciding to be a "guinea pig" for us. What happens if you are disconnected, exit the game, and attempt to pick up (load an autosave?) where you left off before you disconnected?

Ducimus · 02-26-10, 11:12 PM

Thanks for the info crashed97tsi.

I'm going to withhold my opinion on the info you've given, (cause i fear this may have already hijacked the thread to hell and gone), but am only going to say, thank you for taking the time to look into the issue for the curious.

ddrgn · 02-26-10, 11:17 PM

hmmm

I just played the first mission in the campaign, i started, saved my game, unplugged my net, 10 seconds later im bumped to the main menu, saying retry when connection is established again,

but there was a choice at the top to continue mission, i click that 10 seconds later game is reloaded to the same point i left off, i save the game again, and continue on without plugging the net back in, finished off the mission,, relugged in the net and here i am

IanC · 02-26-10, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashed97tsi

It resumed where the game left off, but to be honest this crap from Ubi is doing something totally unacceptable. Out of curiosity, I shut down the game and tried to disable my adapter with everything else running. This is the result:

So, the Ubisoft Cloud DRM is not allowing me to change a setting in MY COMPUTER. They are effectively taking control of that setting on my computer whenver their program is in use.

This is a BIG BIG deal to me, I've actually stopped playing to research this issue further. None of my other programs do this. As you can see from the screenshots, Steam has been running in the background the whole time.

I'm getting what I deserved for not doing more research. At least its supporting SH5 I guess.

Yup, all the objections are not for nothing... but I digress. What do you mean exactly it's not allowing you to change your settings?

Crimguy · 02-26-10, 11:19 PM

Thanks for the info Crash.

I've never before done this, or even cared enough, about DRM measures to not buy a game. Starforce did piss me off once I learned what it did, and by then it was too late.

Until I know more about how Ubi's DRM is handling my net connection, I will not buy this title.

If Ubisoft are listening, I reserve the right to control my hardware, not you. You want to prevent piracy, that's fine with me. Sail the high seas. Just leave my computer alone.

ddrgn · 02-26-10, 11:22 PM

I get the same problem with the network adapter, i cant disable it when the DRM is running, when off I can

crashed97tsi · 02-26-10, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by IanC

Yup, all the objections are not for nothing... but I digress. What do you mean exactly it's not allowing you to change your settings?

If you look at the screenshots, specifically the taskbars in both, you will see what programs are running when I attempt to disable the connection. The first one, where windows give me the message about not being able to disable the connection, has Steam, Hardware Monitor, Fraps, SH5 and Ubisoft's DRM thing running.

The second screenshot is all the same programs minus SH5 and Ubisoft's DRM thing. The connection disables without a problem. You may have to zoom out the screenshots in order to be able to tell.

Since I have never been denied access to disable a peripheral on this machine since I built this computer is leading me to believe that this DRM is taking over that connection when it is running.

I hope I am explaining the problem so you can understand, I took the screenshots to help out.

Edit: and it is my pleasure for testing this, I am glad I did. I may never have discovered this issue otherwise.

Edit 2: I have to go for a bit guys, gotta run some errands. I will be back later tonight and do some more testing with the DRM.

IanC · 02-26-10, 11:28 PM

Ok got it.. Wow

Wolfehunter · 02-26-10, 11:30 PM

Crash did you try ending task's in the task manager processes category?

What are the results?

Parkera · 02-26-10, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

SH5 not due in New Zealand till 5th march

Hey Kiwi order from Mighty Ape and you can pre order it and also recieve it on release day! Also cheaper than at EB

crashed97tsi · 02-26-10, 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wolfehunter

Crash did you try ending task's in the task manager processes category?

What are the results?

Ending the "ubisoft Launcher" results in the program displaying the same lost connection message as in the screenshot below. Then the program hangs, the only way to get out of it was ctrl+alt+del. This error message was displayed

So, yeah...

By the way, I suck at screenshots

Wolfehunter · 02-26-10, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crashed97tsi

Ending the "ubisoft Launcher" results in the program displaying the same lost connection message as in the screenshot below. Then the program hangs, the only way to get out of it was ctrl+alt+del. This error message was displayed

So, yeah...

By the way, I suck at screenshots

Press alt Print Screen to highlight the active window pic and save it to paint or similar program.

ubi is using steam? did you try force end in task manager?

02-26-10, 10:59 PM	#106
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	Thanks for taking the time to show us this stuff. When the connection was restored, did the game resume at the point where it left off or did it require you to reload from a save? __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

02-26-10, 11:10 PM	#108
Heretic Commodore Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Nebraska Posts: 617 Downloads: 240 Uploads: 2	Sorry to hear you weren't aware of it. It's been a bit of a hot topic here. We do appreicate you letting us know how it works. I'll quit pestering you now and let you get back to your game. The game resumes when connection is restored, without losing your progress. That's a big relief. __________________ - heretic I enjoy drinking beer. MightyFine Crew Mod 1.2.1 - Updated 22 March MightyFine Less Annoying Footsteps Crew AI Scripting Information

02-26-10, 11:17 PM	#111
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	hmmm I just played the first mission in the campaign, i started, saved my game, unplugged my net, 10 seconds later im bumped to the main menu, saying retry when connection is established again, but there was a choice at the top to continue mission, i click that 10 seconds later game is reloaded to the same point i left off, i save the game again, and continue on without plugging the net back in, finished off the mission,, relugged in the net and here i am __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

02-26-10, 11:19 PM	#113
Crimguy A-ganger Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a trench outside Vicksburg Posts: 73 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Thanks for the info Crash. I've never before done this, or even cared enough, about DRM measures to not buy a game. Starforce did piss me off once I learned what it did, and by then it was too late. Until I know more about how Ubi's DRM is handling my net connection, I will not buy this title. If Ubisoft are listening, I reserve the right to control my hardware, not you. You want to prevent piracy, that's fine with me. Sail the high seas. Just leave my computer alone. __________________ -=-=-=-=-=- Crimguy

02-26-10, 11:22 PM	#114
ddrgn Korvettenkapitän Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 918 Downloads: 362 Uploads: 30	I get the same problem with the network adapter, i cant disable it when the DRM is running, when off I can __________________ ddrgn mods: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/member.php?u=217261

02-26-10, 11:12 PM	#109
difool2 Commander Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Kudos for deciding to be a "guinea pig" for us. What happens if you are disconnected, exit the game, and attempt to pick up (load an autosave?) where you left off before you disconnected?

02-26-10, 11:12 PM	#110
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Thanks for the info crashed97tsi. I'm going to withhold my opinion on the info you've given, (cause i fear this may have already hijacked the thread to hell and gone), but am only going to say, thank you for taking the time to look into the issue for the curious.

02-26-10, 11:28 PM	#116
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Ok got it.. Wow

02-26-10, 11:30 PM	#117
Wolfehunter Crusty Capt. Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 2,752 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 25	Crash did you try ending task's in the task manager processes category? What are the results? __________________