The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

SeaSprite · 02-26-10, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dutch

Absolutely not a necessary evil.

That would be the same as every time you walk into the bank to withdraw your money that the security guard shoots you in the leg because after all there are bank robbers and you might be that guy.

DRM is about as necessary as that.

Actually it maybe more like you going on a flight nowadays and having to take your shoes off, or be subjected to a body scan because you might just be a terrorist...

Dutch · 02-26-10, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaSprite

Actually it maybe more like you going on a flight nowadays and having to take your shoes off, or be subjected to a body scan because you might just be a terrorist...

But see I actually find that reasonable.

If it hurts you to take off your shoes then there is something wrong with you.

Dutch · 02-26-10, 12:33 PM

Hey I got two post in before this was thrown into the Gawd Alimighty DRM thread to die.

Looks like it took about 5 minutes.

jwilliams · 02-26-10, 04:17 PM

I dont realy mind DRM, i've never had anythink bad happen from it (i know some claim DRM killed their DVD drive etc.).

But i do not like the online aspect of this new system (OSP). where will it end..... will i have to go online (and create accounts) to watch my DVD's, listen to my music CD's, play my console etc.

And then theres always the posiblity that the servers you connect to will be turned off, rendering all you digital media useless. It's happening already with some downloaded music DRM's.

So lets hope this "online only" idea has a very short life.

The Enigma · 02-26-10, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SeaSprite

Actually it maybe more like you going on a flight nowadays and having to take your shoes off, or be subjected to a body scan because you might just be a terrorist...

And for this idiotic and overreacted measurements I don't travel by planes any longer.

02-26-10, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by The Enigma

And for this idiotic and overreacted measurements I don't travel by planes any longer.

My life wont end by not playing Ubisoft games. And not that i agree anymore with DRM then i do with the obscene measures taken againts terrorist where people happily throw all there personal liberties out the window. But i try and affect that also... just as i dont buy Ubisoft games so that i dont support em, neither do i vote for facist parties at elections who wanna turn my country into a police state.

The Enigma · 02-26-10, 02:32 PM

@Lio

My life wont end either, it's just a game I'm not able to play.
No more no less.

mw2000 · 02-26-10, 04:10 PM

Just read this over at softpedia.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubiso...M-136081.shtml

Rockin Robbins · 02-26-10, 04:25 PM

Has anyone considered that pirates succeed in large part because they release a superior product? Why was Ubi forced to release a previously pirated version of SH3? It was a superior product which consented to run on more hardware and without the aggravation of the original DRM.

Same with SH4. First Ubi released patch 1.3 with no DRM at all. Then for inexplicable reasons, they refanged SecuRom for the UBM release. It now scans your running processes for programs Sony doesn't like, including legitimate programs by Microsoft having nothing whatever to do with piracy. This invasion of my sovereignty is unacceptable.

Once the pirates are done with a program it runs quicker on more variations of hardware, is smaller, takes fewer system resources....it is just a superior product. If it were in Wal-Mart it would outsell the original.

Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold!

The Enigma · 02-26-10, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold!

Yeah, I just bought that version from Amazon, since I don't need to buy SH5 for the moment.

Archive1 · 02-26-10, 06:30 PM

Mookie...:
You're right - I should have just said "Europe" in my post above. In any case, my point regarding a seeming ignorance of things - grid failures and intemperate weather and power outages - in the US stands on it own.

Ilpalazzo · 02-26-10, 08:03 PM

Okay so I only just heard about this and I did not read past page 4. So is this all a lie or do I really have to be connected to UBI and let them have my game saves? IF this is for real then ********************************K THAT! I WILL NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME! Too bad because it was the only game I was looking forward to this year.

Elder-Pirate · 02-26-10, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilpalazzo

Okay so I only just heard about this and I did not read past page 4. So is this all a lie or do I really have to be connected to UBI and let them have my game saves? IF this is for real then ********************************K THAT! I WILL NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME! Too bad because it was the only game I was looking forward to this year.

No you do not have to go beyond page four and no it is not a lie and yes you will have to be connected to it's Majesty UBISOFT and again yes they will save your games. In other words whats yours is theirs and whats theirs is theirs also........or will be if you play their way.

Wait a couple more days and judgement day will be unfold.

mookiemookie · 02-26-10, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Rockin Robbins

Once the pirates are done with a program it runs quicker on more variations of hardware, is smaller, takes fewer system resources....it is just a superior product. If it were in Wal-Mart it would outsell the original.

Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold!

That's the crux of the solution to the entire piracy problem right there. Provide a product/service that's better, faster and easier that what the pirates can, and you'll do well. See Steam and itunes for examples.

jwilliams · 02-26-10, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mw2000

Just read this over at softpedia.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubiso...M-136081.shtml

Ofcause they arnt going to patch out the DRM. Only if sales slow to a crawl or this new DRM is cracked are they going to patch it out ealier.
Because releasing a patch for the DRM would mean that theres no need for the DRM.

so those holding off until they can play offline will prob be waiting a long time... (unless SH5 get pirated) sales wont drop off for awhile. simulation games still sell well along time after release.

02-26-10, 12:33 PM	#3
Dutch Sonar Guy Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: United States Posts: 376 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hey I got two post in before this was thrown into the Gawd Alimighty DRM thread to die. Looks like it took about 5 minutes. __________________ \"Ask Not What Your Country Can Do For You, Ask What You Can Do For Your Country.\" President John F. Kennedy

02-26-10, 04:17 PM	#4
jwilliams Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: New Zealand Posts: 1,013 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	I dont realy mind DRM, i've never had anythink bad happen from it (i know some claim DRM killed their DVD drive etc.). But i do not like the online aspect of this new system (OSP). where will it end..... will i have to go online (and create accounts) to watch my DVD's, listen to my music CD's, play my console etc. And then theres always the posiblity that the servers you connect to will be turned off, rendering all you digital media useless. It's happening already with some downloaded music DRM's. So lets hope this "online only" idea has a very short life. __________________ Windows 7, 64bit. Phenom II 965BE (OC 4cores @ 3.8 Ghz). Radeon HD4870 (1gb gddr5). 6gb Ram.

02-26-10, 02:32 PM	#7
The Enigma Seer of visions Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Under the surface Posts: 2,315 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	@Lio My life wont end either, it's just a game I'm not able to play. No more no less. __________________

02-26-10, 04:25 PM	#9
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Has anyone considered that pirates succeed in large part because they release a superior product? Why was Ubi forced to release a previously pirated version of SH3? It was a superior product which consented to run on more hardware and without the aggravation of the original DRM. Same with SH4. First Ubi released patch 1.3 with no DRM at all. Then for inexplicable reasons, they refanged SecuRom for the UBM release. It now scans your running processes for programs Sony doesn't like, including legitimate programs by Microsoft having nothing whatever to do with piracy. This invasion of my sovereignty is unacceptable. Once the pirates are done with a program it runs quicker on more variations of hardware, is smaller, takes fewer system resources....it is just a superior product. If it were in Wal-Mart it would outsell the original. Thank God for DRM free SH4 Gold! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

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02-26-10, 04:10 PM	#8
mw2000 Seaman Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Plymouth, UK Posts: 41 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 0	Just read this over at softpedia. http://news.softpedia.com/news/Ubiso...M-136081.shtml

02-26-10, 06:30 PM	#11
Archive1 Captain Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Washington State south of Tacoma Posts: 497 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Mookie...: You're right - I should have just said "Europe" in my post above. In any case, my point regarding a seeming ignorance of things - grid failures and intemperate weather and power outages - in the US stands on it own.

02-26-10, 08:03 PM	#12
Ilpalazzo Frogman Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 309 Downloads: 20 Uploads: 0	Okay so I only just heard about this and I did not read past page 4. So is this all a lie or do I really have to be connected to UBI and let them have my game saves? IF this is for real then ********************************K THAT! I WILL NOT PURCHASE THIS GAME! Too bad because it was the only game I was looking forward to this year.