The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by Méo

Ok even if he does, there is something wrong?

Because someone don't have the same opinion about it, it's wrong?

(I've already said that most of us would come back anytime to the good old days of PC gaming, execpt for graphics )

Did I say wrong? No I didn't. Still, I cannot understand anyone actually "liking" this OSP rubbish, it really holds no advantages for the player.

[Méo]

Originally Posted by Nordmann

Did I say wrong? No I didn't. Still, I cannot understand anyone actually "liking" this OSP rubbish, it really holds no advantages for the player.

Of course you did not say 'wrong'.

But when you say that you got the strange impression that he likes DRM, I assume you insinuate it is somewhat 'wrong'.

Otherwise, I don't see the point of your post (#1555)

But it doesn't really matter, as Neal said: Peace.

[Fire]

[JackAubrey]

Sorry if the Video has already been posted here.

I don't know if you have seen the Ubisoft DRM in Action.

The German Game Magazine "Gamestar" posted a Video on its Facebook Page to show how the DRM works in their Test Version of "Assassins Creed 2". The Network Cable gets unplugged while playing the game.

Basically, the game shuts down, prompts you to save and goes back to desktop.
For you non-germans:
The guy in the Video says at the end, that they cannot say if its really like that in the retail version, but they are fearing that it is. If you use a somewhat unstable WLAN connection, playing would be interrupted.


http://www.facebook.com/video/video....2900728&ref=mf

I also just read:

The victims of PC gaming DRM: one soldier's story

With companies like Ubisoft leading the way to a future where all PC games need to be in contact with their home servers all the time, one group is being particularly harmed by this movement: soldiers stationed in remote locations. Life on deployment is hard, psychologically demanding, and often lonely for soldiers missing their loved ones and families. Gaming is a popular pastime in American bases, but DRM can take that away.

This sort of DRM makes sense for a world where every device is always connected to some magically open and always-on Internet connection. That world is a very long way away, so by requiring an Internet connection at all times to play a game that isn't online itself is simply alienating an audience. This approach also represents a poor attempt to attack piracy by attacking people who want to pay you money for the game you've made impossible for them to play.

via Arstechnica.com

[Onkel Neal]

Originally Posted by OakGroove

scrap "liking", insert "tolerating".

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Nordmann

It's funny really, I've seen such accusations levelled in a few threads over the past few weeks, but it isn't logical at all. DRM is a non issue to pirates, these scumbag individuals work their way round such "protection" within hours of the game's release!

We will see. And fixed.

[kylania]

You can't honestly believe this (any!) DRM will do anything about pirates? DRM has not, does not and will not do anything to stop true pirates.

At most it would be a minor inconvenience to a pirate, confuse for a day or two a scriptkidde yet completely and constantly punish a paying customer.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by kylania

You can't honestly believe this (any!) DRM will do anything about pirates? DRM has not, does not and will not do anything to stop true pirates.

At most it would be a minor inconvenience to a pirate, confuse for a day or two a scriptkidde yet completely and constantly punish a paying customer.

Such a wrong misconception.
DRM is not designed to stop pirates, its designed to take away control from the legitimate customer.

[wetwarev7]

I've skipped the last hundred pages or so of this thread, so....

Something else that has occured to me regarding the whole being online while playing issue is that it changes things from a purchase to Ubi now providing me with a service. I wonder if Ubisoft has considered the implications of not having a proper service agreement, and what legel holes they might be digging for themselves due to loss of service issues?



And, what kind of legal rights and expectations do consumers have when buying software that requires a constant internet connection for use?

[OakGroove]

Still, I cannot understand anyone actually "liking" this OSP rubbish, it really holds no advantages for the player.

scrap "liking", insert "tolerating". I haven't met a single person, aside of the devil and his minions, who would like, or advocate this particular DRM with reason. In general, all that DRM implementations have "achieved" to date, is an increase in production costs, while making the experience less convenient for the consumer. Sometimes (early Starforce versions) this could translate not only into inconvenience, but also solid Hardware defects. DRM did, and does not prevent piracy. The evidence is right out there up for grabs. With every new title released.