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Old 02-19-10, 12:47 PM   #1
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The platform requires a permanent Internet connection. We know this choice is controversial but we feel is justified by the gameplay advantages offered by the system and because most PCs are already connected to the Internet.
Has Ubi described what these gameplay advantages are for the customer. Clearly there are advantages for Ubi, but I am not understanding what they mean by gameplay advantages.

I can tolerate the internet connection requirement if it is just something that Ubi, the owners of software, want. But if they are justifying this requirement by claiming that there are some gameplay advantages for ME, I would be interested in knowing what these advantages are.
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Old 02-19-10, 12:50 PM   #2
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Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. I DO NOT PERSONALLY BELIEVE THIS IS AN ADVANTAGE. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.

EDIT: Made it REALLY clear that I don't agree that this is an advantage. Sheesh last time I try and answer a factual question!
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Old 02-19-10, 01:03 PM   #3
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Yes, nothing new. The thing is the PCGamer is about AC2, not SH5.
We don't have solid info on how this works, other than Neal showing us some disconnected playtime, which could mean the OSP will differ among different games..
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Old 02-19-10, 01:03 PM   #4
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Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.
Which to people like me (with one gaming computer to install and play the game on) means absolutely no benefit at all.
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Old 02-19-10, 01:10 PM   #5
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Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.
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Which to people like me (with one gaming computer to install and play the game on) means absolutely no benefit at all.
Me too, but I guess this does qualify as gameplay advantages to someone. . No requirement that all gameplay advantages have to apply to all gameplayers.
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Old 02-19-10, 01:14 PM   #6
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I simply loved Ubi's statement, especially the last line.

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"our goal is to deliver the best gaming experience to our customers, anywhere, anytime."
Anywhere and anytime, as long as you have a net connection.
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Old 02-19-10, 02:46 PM   #7
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Here's hoping the game autosaves regularly, as you won't be able to save when your connection drops.
For a game like SH5 where you`re patrolling for hours on end, it would need to autosave to their server at least every 5 minutes. Ridiculous.



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Anywhere and anytime, as long as you have a net connection.

Exactly and how can a person`s gaming experience be enjoyable under these circumstances? The whole shenanigins puts me off just thinking about it. Games should not stress a person out with such restraints.

Not buying. I don`t care how much UBI don`t care.
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Which to people like me (with one gaming computer to install and play the game on) means absolutely no benefit at all.
Likewise. I'm just trying to stay calm and balanced this evening .
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If "Piracy" is a slang term for copyright infringement, the unlawful reproduction of the work of another, often for the purpose of re-distribution and profit.......

How is paying $50 for a game, not reproducing or copying it in any shape or form, but instead defeating inappropriate software restrictions designed to force you to play it online instead of on your own computer....how is that piracy?

I do NOT want to open a discussion here on a subject that will get members banned, but I feel that the term Piracy is cast with too wide a net sometimes.
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If "Piracy" is a slang term for copyright infringement, the unlawful reproduction of the work of another, often for the purpose of re-distribution and profit.......

How is paying $50 for a game, not reproducing or copying it in any shape or form, but instead defeating inappropriate software restrictions designed to force you to play it online instead of on your own computer....how is that piracy?

I would think the ones sharing the games are guilty of copyright infringement. The ones downloading are guilty of theft, morally if not legally. Your example probably falls under the EULA somehow. It's certainly not theft or copyright infringement, so not piracy.

*edit* and we're probably not allowed to talk about it, in any case.
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I would think the ones sharing the games are guilty of copyright infringement. The ones downloading are guilty of theft, morally if not legally. Your example probably falls under the EULA somehow. It's certainly not theft or copyright infringement, so not piracy.

*edit* and we're probably not allowed to talk about it, in any case.
Excellent post, Heretic.
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and reported that the games aren't at all friendly towards gamers with shoddy internet connections. "If you get disconnected while playing, you're booted out of the game. All your progress since the last checkpoint or savegame is lost, and your only options are to quit to Windows or wait until you're reconnected," the site reported.

"If you get disconnected while playing, you're booted out of the game I will definitely buy it NOW like sh*t
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Old 02-19-10, 04:32 PM   #13
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Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.
So the "benefits" are exactly the same as the standard for every single PC game that was released since the PC was invented up until around 2005.
It seems we've taken a step backward somewhere along the line.
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So the "benefits" are exactly the same as the standard for every single PC game that was released since the PC was invented up until around 2005.
It seems we've taken a step backward somewhere along the line.
Yes, it's now more hassle to own a legitimate copy than a pirate version. I don't subscribe to the Ubisoft mantra, just answering the question as to what Ubisoft say are the advantages.
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Old 02-19-10, 11:50 PM   #15
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Platapus, the advantage is being able to save your games online, so you can play from any computer. The other advantage is that there is no limit to the number of PCs you can install this on, though you can only play on one at a time.
You can save games online NOW. There are services to do this, or you could simply target a network directory for save games, right?

I can install SH4 on any PC that I put the disk in, but only 1 at a time.

I'm not seeing any advantage.
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