When you think SHV what do you think of?

Nordmann · 02-19-10, 01:10 AM

The game does seem interesting, and I like the idea of a fully rendered interior, despite some of the animation issues. The only problem I see at this time is the DRM, which is most definitely worthy of discussion. If we do not discuss it, and fail to make our voices heard, what is to stop other companies from taking the OSP route?

Letum · 02-19-10, 01:16 AM

Talk about loaded choices and irony!

thruster · 02-19-10, 01:47 AM

i see a great game made useless by DRM.
i see me saving my SH5 money for something else. that still upsets me.

evan82 · 02-19-10, 04:05 AM

I think SH5 is far from the high real sub simulation game at this moment, but I can buy it for it's profits [all interior and better graphics...],
however only without DRM!!!

Iron Budokan · 02-19-10, 08:48 AM

When I think of SH5 I think of a game I could have bought...but now will not.

Platapus · 02-19-10, 10:05 AM

What do I think of when I think of SH5?

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for DRM, I'd have no complaint at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

We figured SH5 was rich, loaded to the max
And we figured SH5 had class just like GWX
'Cause we had heard how great SH5 was going to look
How was we to know they meant only the stupid cook

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for game-play, I'd have no complaint at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

V.C. Sniper · 02-19-10, 03:32 PM

ppl shud be talking about the actual game itself

Heretic · 02-19-10, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

What do I think of when I think of SH5?

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for DRM, I'd have no complaint at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

We figured SH5 was rich, loaded to the max
And we figured SH5 had class just like GWX
'Cause we had heard how great SH5 was going to look
How was we to know they meant only the stupid cook

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for game-play, I'd have no complaint at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

LiveGoat · 02-19-10, 03:44 PM

Sah-lute! And now our musical guests, the Statler Brothers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

What do I think of when I think of SH5?

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for DRM, I'd have no complaint at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

We figured SH5 was rich, loaded to the max
And we figured SH5 had class just like GWX
'Cause we had heard how great SH5 was going to look
How was we to know they meant only the stupid cook

Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for game-play, I'd have no complaint at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me

janh · 02-19-10, 06:13 PM

The set of possible answers in this poll is incomplete and thus the result statistically insignificant. A number of alternative answers suggested by the given ones are missing. With the given possible answers, no critique against the DRM as well as the game is possible, for instance. This is a non-legitimate way to bias a statistical poll to obtain a certain result... kind of obvious, isn't it? Quite evidently the author of the poll wanted to achieve a certain result, or is lacking the skill to set up a poll in a meaningful way. Thus, this poll better would better closed.

My chosen answer: "This online DRM is a terrible idea and brings about severe drawbacks for single-player games that I as a customer am not willing to take. Also I find that the quality of the product SHV needs to be established first before I consider buying it at full price (after DRM removal). Both currently needs critical reviewing. Or the sales numbers may tumble below the SH IV ones...". You can shorten that if you want, but you get the idea.

Anyway, if someone wanted to start an interesting poll, then how many of the serious modders involved previously in the Full-Mods GWX, Fleetboat etc. are still onboard with SHV? I have seen several of the people I recognized from those mods before stating that they turn their back on SHV. One major reason was that since modding involves permanent restarts for testing, the new OSP DRM will be a deal breaker. I would really like to know how many experienced and serious modders are still planning on modding SHV. This will be even more crucial than in SHIII now, since 43-45 and the other boats are not a given (nor are addons confirmed as of yet).

View Poll Results: What do you think about how much people are talking about DRM not SHV it's self
I think DRM is the only topic worth talking about	63	46.32%
People should be more positive about DRM and SHV	6	4.41%
People should focus more on the actual game	66	48.53%
I don't think DRM should be discussed at all	1	0.74%
Voters: 136. You may not vote on this poll

02-19-10, 01:10 AM	#1
Nordmann Commodore Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: England Posts: 628 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The game does seem interesting, and I like the idea of a fully rendered interior, despite some of the animation issues. The only problem I see at this time is the DRM, which is most definitely worthy of discussion. If we do not discuss it, and fail to make our voices heard, what is to stop other companies from taking the OSP route? __________________ "I must confess that my imagination refuses to see any sort of submarine doing anything but suffocating its crew and floundering at sea." - H. G. Wells

02-19-10, 01:16 AM	#2
Letum Navy Seal Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: York - UK Posts: 6,079 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	Talk about loaded choices and irony! __________________

02-19-10, 04:05 AM	#4
evan82 Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 555 Downloads: 197 Uploads: 12	I think SH5 is far from the high real sub simulation game at this moment, but I can buy it for it's profits [all interior and better graphics...], however only without DRM!!! __________________ MY MODS - evan82's XXI Water StreamVIIB War Skin IIevan82's XXI Skin...

02-19-10, 08:48 AM	#5
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	When I think of SH5 I think of a game I could have bought...but now will not. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com

02-19-10, 01:47 AM	#3
thruster Electrician's Mate Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 139 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i see a great game made useless by DRM. i see me saving my SH5 money for something else. that still upsets me.

02-19-10, 10:05 AM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,398 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	What do I think of when I think of SH5? Gloom, despair, and agony on me Deep, dark depression, excessive misery If it weren't for DRM, I'd have no complaint at all Gloom, despair, and agony on me We figured SH5 was rich, loaded to the max And we figured SH5 had class just like GWX 'Cause we had heard how great SH5 was going to look How was we to know they meant only the stupid cook Gloom, despair, and agony on me Deep, dark depression, excessive misery If it weren't for game-play, I'd have no complaint at all Gloom, despair, and agony on me __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

02-19-10, 03:32 PM	#7
V.C. Sniper Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	ppl shud be talking about the actual game itself __________________ I only need one torpedo.

02-19-10, 06:13 PM	#10
janh Stinking drunk in Trinidad Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 349 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	close? The set of possible answers in this poll is incomplete and thus the result statistically insignificant. A number of alternative answers suggested by the given ones are missing. With the given possible answers, no critique against the DRM as well as the game is possible, for instance. This is a non-legitimate way to bias a statistical poll to obtain a certain result... kind of obvious, isn't it? Quite evidently the author of the poll wanted to achieve a certain result, or is lacking the skill to set up a poll in a meaningful way. Thus, this poll better would better closed. My chosen answer: "This online DRM is a terrible idea and brings about severe drawbacks for single-player games that I as a customer am not willing to take. Also I find that the quality of the product SHV needs to be established first before I consider buying it at full price (after DRM removal). Both currently needs critical reviewing. Or the sales numbers may tumble below the SH IV ones...". You can shorten that if you want, but you get the idea. Anyway, if someone wanted to start an interesting poll, then how many of the serious modders involved previously in the Full-Mods GWX, Fleetboat etc. are still onboard with SHV? I have seen several of the people I recognized from those mods before stating that they turn their back on SHV. One major reason was that since modding involves permanent restarts for testing, the new OSP DRM will be a deal breaker. I would really like to know how many experienced and serious modders are still planning on modding SHV. This will be even more crucial than in SHIII now, since 43-45 and the other boats are not a given (nor are addons confirmed as of yet).