An Alternative?

[Bilge_Rat]

open source wargaming:

[THE_MASK]

There is no alternative to a new subsim . SH5 is it .

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by sober

There is no alternative to a new subsim . SH5 is it .

In a nut shell...you are correct.

[V.C. Sniper]

i herd eagle dynamics liekz simz

[Akula4745]

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

Women. a whole bunch of em. Nekkid.

I concur completely!

[frau kaleun]

Originally Posted by Heretic

My Lord, I have a cunning plan:

1. Win the lottery
2. Buy the Silent Hunter rights from Ubisoft
3. Hire the Silent Hunter team

You forgot the all-important final two steps!

4. ???
5. Profit!

[Heretic]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

You forgot the all-important final two steps!

4. ???
5. Profit!

That's what so cunning about my ever-so-cunning plan! It involves no profit whatsoever. That's the Achilles Heel of the PC Game industry. They're burdened with having to make a profit. Take that away and you can have the game of your dreams.

You just have to win the lottery....

[Reece]

If everyone here paid $100 up front to say Subsim, we might be able to hire our own devs to make a similar game, then Subsim would own the rights!!

[kiwi_2005]

Originally Posted by Reece

If everyone here paid $100 up front to say Subsim, we might be able to hire our own devs to make a similar game, then Subsim would own the rights!!

Well damn me if im going to put in $100 I at the very least want to own part of those rights as well. I mean what if the game becomes a masterpiece sells 2 million copies. Only Neal would get the royalties! Can't have that call me a tight bast**d but i want a piece of the pie as well man!

Originally Posted by kiwi_2005

Well damn me if im going to put in $100 I at the very least want to own part of those rights as well. I mean what if the game becomes a masterpiece sells 2 million copies. Only Neal would get the royalties! Can't have that call me a tight bast**d but i want a piece of the pie as well man!

Yes, paying 100 US Dollars or even 100 Euros per game, with an estimate sell of around 5000 (in worst case scenario) units would be enough to hire a team of 8 up to 10 developers, which will have two years time for making the best game in the genre. And maybe even make some profit, and a profit well earned, this time. I am not naive, I know that this won't happen, nobody will start up this project, but I am SURE the potential game will be close to perfection, or at least much better than any SH game from the series.

[rascal101]

PT Boats - Nice Graphics, sometimes - ridiculous game play - I wonder if we should encourage them! - Just kidding -

The premise of this post is absolutly correct but unlikly to happen - the thing is - if there are enough folks who disagree with the way things are going, and if they vote with their cold hard cash, or with-hold same then its possible to affect how things will be done

I'm voting in the way described above, unless I see or hear of something radical to change my mind - I prefer to buy games that I percieve as having good replay value -

From what I've seen this new SH5 will be great to look at and perhaps fun to play the first couple of times but I just dont see how the way its constructed will lend itself to ongoing - repeat play - we all saw the career diagram the other day - there's only so many times and permutaions -

Its mostly the DRM, thats the thing that needs to go - the rest is tollerable but I really cant accept the DRM

R

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Akella made PT Boats. Did you buy PT Boats? That would encourage Akella.

[urfisch]

Originally Posted by Brag

Some ideas:

The GWX team has already done a lot of work. Build on that?

Find a way to support the Danger from the Deep people.

Encourage Akella, they already have a surface engine, at least

It would be great to have a publisher where management has a passion for the genre.

yes, already thought about a cooperation with akella. the graphics are nice and a really good base for a subsim...

[The Enigma]

Originally Posted by rascal101

Its mostly the DRM, thats the thing that needs to go - the rest is tollerable but I really cant accept the DRM

I agree, SH5 seems OK to me, if there wasn't this online DRM, I would buy it asap.

[Nordmann]

Originally Posted by The Enigma

I agree, SH5 seems OK to me, if there wasn't this online DRM, I would buy it asap.

Ditto. There are few niggles here and there, but nothing the modders can't straighten out in the long run. The DRM issue is practically the only reason I'm currently avoiding buying the game. Ubi really dropped the ball on this one.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Can How many new faces in modding showed up for SH4? More than a handful...a lot more than a hand full.

Funny, I said exactly the same thing about SH3. SH2 was bad on many levels, but the campaign was the only one that couldn't really be fixed. So many modders did so many great things.

SH3 came along, and none of those guys were anywhere to be seen, except Hitman. But a great many new faces showed up, and showed talent. All of the much-praised SH3 guys came along after SH2 was long gone.

And, as you said, again with SH4. Who knows what talent SH5 will inspire to show up? Well, I won't, at least not until "It" is gone.