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Old 02-14-10, 03:24 PM   #1
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. I also recall the scene where his war-time buddy is dragged off and shot as a looter for picking up an intact porcelain statue while helping clear the debris after the raid.

Of course, then there were the weird scenes on another planet.

Vonnegut is hard to follow even for native English language speakers.
I believe it was a tea pot (without a cozy as Balz was still wearing it at the time) and yes it was a bit difficult to read for us in the 12th grade.
Interesting book nonetheless.

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Free speech ends for me when it is abusing the death of at least 25.000 people to support a criminal regime that caused havoc all over Europe. Besides a lot of the Nazis (just like the counter demonstrators from the black block) were only there to "see action". There have been plenty of fights between the police and them outside of Dresden.
Would you allow Al Quaida to demonstrate in New York in the name of free speech?
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Old 02-14-10, 03:28 PM   #2
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Al Quaida to demonstrate in New York in the name of free speech?
Could it be done without the incitement of violence?

just as i said with the neo-nazis... * IF *it could be done without violence i say... "Why not?"

i dont agree with either message, but i agree with their rights.

what happens 20 years from now when it becomes illegal for Christians to gather publicly for fear it might incite violence?

food for thought.
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I will (and have) fought for the right of anyone to speak peaceably their views - even the idiotic ones. That is what free speech is.

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it. - Voltaire
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Old 02-14-10, 05:13 PM   #4
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They wanted to promote a regime that doesn't grant free speech. So in a way they got what they wanted, didn't they?
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