Ops Monsoon - Page 2

ERPP8 · 02-10-10, 07:22 PM

At 150 feet they still got me

AVGWarhawk · 02-11-10, 09:50 AM

Bummer...go to 160!

609_Avatar · 02-11-10, 10:12 AM

I also recently started a late career with the XXI just for a change a pace and because I've never really played with this sub much. Operation Monsoon (I'm assuming that the stock game doesn't do this as much but I don't know) has a lot of PBYs that utilize the MAD detection system and it's a royal P.I.T.A.!

During the day I'm traveling along submerged at 400-500' and I'm still taking lots of damage to my engine room. I've not read up on this system and how it works but I'm aware that it is totally realistic to be spotted at that depth but to be able to be hit so consistently? I'm not so sure. I mean the depth charges have to take time to travel that distance below the surface and with its' friction I would think it would be very hard to hit a sub traveling at 2-3 knots at 500' as they would have to figure out how far ahead of me to drop in order to take all the variables into account. They didn't have computers for this telling them to release now or anything but every single day while I'm traveling to my patrol area I'm getting hit. Once hit I then start to do evasive maneuvers but still... is this realistic?

I'd also appreciate any tips on trying to survive these types of attacks. I haven't died yet but boy would I like to now be hit every single day... tends to put one in a bad mood and I want a happy crew, not a pissed off wounded one.

Thanks for any tips!

Sailor Steve · 02-11-10, 11:26 AM

Unfortunately this makes it unrealisticaly hard when in the North Sea. They can see deeper than you can go, as the bottom is shallow. The North Sea is murky, and I'm unaware of any u-boats being bombed by aircraft there, even when at periscope depth.

ERPP8 · 02-11-10, 04:07 PM

Also it's somehow possible to damage you at that depth

ERPP8 · 02-11-10, 04:48 PM

They attacked for 24 hours!

DirtyACE · 02-11-10, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Unfortunately this makes it unrealisticaly hard when in the North Sea. They can see deeper than you can go, as the bottom is shallow. The North Sea is murky, and I'm unaware of any u-boats being bombed by aircraft there, even when at periscope depth.

There's no mod to fix this problem?

Wilcke · 02-11-10, 06:04 PM

In 1944, 232 U-Boats were sunk and approximately 77 of those were sunk by aircraft. I did not look into where they were sunk.

Sailor Steve · 02-11-10, 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyACE

There's no mod to fix this problem?

Somebody posted a fix for this just a few weeks ago. Unfortunately my computer is in storage so I can't look to see what it was. I've searched every thread I could think of, but with no luck.

I know involved using S3D to look at one of the Sensor files and adjusting it to make the water opaque to the AI, but I just can't remember which one or to what. I hope someone will see this and give up the proper information.

609_Avatar · 02-12-10, 09:49 AM

Well then I hope some kind soul does spot this and point it out as I would like to have a little bit of fun before I die in the later days of the war...

ERPP8 · 02-14-10, 01:33 PM

I searched almost every plausible file and there is no sign of any file to mod.

etheberge · 02-15-10, 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERPP8

I searched almost every plausible file and there is no sign of any file to mod.

Lurker posted the changes needed to nerf the MAD in the OM thread on the 12th, if you guys are still looking for it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=2190

ERPP8 · 02-15-10, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etheberge

Lurker posted the changes needed to nerf the MAD in the OM thread on the 12th, if you guys are still looking for it.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...postcount=2190

It didn't work

!!!

02-11-10, 09:50 AM	#17
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,293 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Bummer...go to 160! __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

02-11-10, 10:12 AM	#18
609_Avatar Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 3rd Planet From The Sun Posts: 345 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	I also recently started a late career with the XXI just for a change a pace and because I've never really played with this sub much. Operation Monsoon (I'm assuming that the stock game doesn't do this as much but I don't know) has a lot of PBYs that utilize the MAD detection system and it's a royal P.I.T.A.! During the day I'm traveling along submerged at 400-500' and I'm still taking lots of damage to my engine room. I've not read up on this system and how it works but I'm aware that it is totally realistic to be spotted at that depth but to be able to be hit so consistently? I'm not so sure. I mean the depth charges have to take time to travel that distance below the surface and with its' friction I would think it would be very hard to hit a sub traveling at 2-3 knots at 500' as they would have to figure out how far ahead of me to drop in order to take all the variables into account. They didn't have computers for this telling them to release now or anything but every single day while I'm traveling to my patrol area I'm getting hit. Once hit I then start to do evasive maneuvers but still... is this realistic? I'd also appreciate any tips on trying to survive these types of attacks. I haven't died yet but boy would I like to now be hit every single day... tends to put one in a bad mood and I want a happy crew, not a pissed off wounded one. Thanks for any tips! __________________ Avatar

02-11-10, 11:26 AM	#19
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Unfortunately this makes it unrealisticaly hard when in the North Sea. They can see deeper than you can go, as the bottom is shallow. The North Sea is murky, and I'm unaware of any u-boats being bombed by aircraft there, even when at periscope depth. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

02-11-10, 06:04 PM	#23
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02-12-10, 09:49 AM	#25
609_Avatar Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: 3rd Planet From The Sun Posts: 345 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Well then I hope some kind soul does spot this and point it out as I would like to have a little bit of fun before I die in the later days of the war... __________________ Avatar

02-10-10, 07:22 PM	#16
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	At 150 feet they still got me

02-11-10, 04:07 PM	#20
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	Also it's somehow possible to damage you at that depth

02-11-10, 04:48 PM	#21
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	They attacked for 24 hours!

02-14-10, 01:33 PM	#26
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	I searched almost every plausible file and there is no sign of any file to mod.