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Old 08-15-05, 03:42 PM   #16
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Most PT boats were excellent even in rough seas, as the Fairchild Ds that went from England to Norway may testify.
Fishing boats, however... aren't that good.
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Old 08-15-05, 04:04 PM   #17
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Well they weren't very good in SH3 until the fix. So again, the fix seems to make it more accurate, if what you're saying is true.
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Old 08-15-05, 04:59 PM   #18
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i had a strange happening once, it happened when i created a custom mission, two V&W's moulded each other together to make a V&W battleship, pretty cool, needless to say it sank as they tried to turn but it looked good
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Old 08-15-05, 05:26 PM   #19
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In really stormy seas, I was taking my boat into Gibralter (itself an utter failure, alas) in very stormy seas and three or four grey 'sunk ship' icons gradually placed themselves around. Nobody even knew I was there, to the best of my knowledge, the storm took 'em.
I've made it into Gib in perfect weather and escaped to tell the tale after sinking a T3, a T2, some small merchant and a Docked Destroyer (using Rub 1.42).

All i did was hug the Spanish Coast to the NE of Gib, travelling as fast as possible at night and staying submerged during the day. I got within about 20km and approached at periscope depth with silent running on. I swung around, with the Rock to starboard, in very shallow waters. Navigated to the middle of the Bay, spotted the T3, slunk over to it and popped a few torps into it at <800m.

On the way back out i saw a few tempting ships in the dock itself which i sank. For fun i surfaced in one of the docks, promptly got bombed by a catalina, sank to 50m, made my repairs and crept out to the waiting welcome party which managed to miss me completely.

The final destroyer was docked, started pinging me (well i think it was him), but didn't move so it seemed a waste not to make use of my aft torp.

I escaped, set course for La Spezia and the acclaim, medals, renown and nurses that awaited me.

And promptly got sunk by an aircraft near malta on my next patrol.
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Old 08-15-05, 06:33 PM   #20
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In standard SH3, smaller ships will take damage and sometimes sink in bad weather.

This is fixed in RUb 1.43, If I remember correctly (at least even the PT-boats are going strong in storms in RUb). There is also a fix there reducing the number of aircraft appearing simultaneously, thus also reducing the chance of mid-air crashes.
Isn't that a tad unrealistic? I mean ships do sometimes sink in bad weather, especially small ones.
Indeed it is! The ocean floor is crowded with ships that have sunk in storms.

Then again, small ships would never be out in storms anyway, and by that I'm thinking of the little patrol boats. Small merchant could be 'trapped' in open sea of course, so that is the downside of the fix.

Anyway I'm glad this is fixed, as I sometimes found myself surrounded by 5-6 patrol boats that were all burning... And, sometimes, after spending an hour or so getting lined up for that perfect shot on a C3, it sinks! (even they sunk sometimes before the fix). So if I had to choose, I'd take the fix.
I've never seen what you're describing. I have seen some C2's and the odd T3 take on a list in heavy seas but i never waited to see if they'd have sunk on their own. Too sweet a target to pass up.

I do agree with you however about patrol boats and i'd extend that right up to coastal freighters, as not being suitable for ocean gales, although it seems to me that they should either come through it unscathed or sink. Certainly not catch fire and go on the attack!
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Old 08-15-05, 06:59 PM   #21
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planes making strafing runs and not pulling up ive seen these kamakazis in the last 2 or 3 patrols.

also, this is kinda funny but. in october of '39, i snuck into scappa flow. i hit a revenge BB. about 30 minutes later, there were at least ten "sinking" marks on the outside perimeter of the islands around scappa flow. i only met one destroyer coming out of Scappa Flow
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Old 08-15-05, 11:14 PM   #22
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Yup. After installing Rub's traffic mod I was leaving Willhemshaven and saw 2 Bf-109's fly over my deck real slow, fall into the water and then keep running in circles through the water on the surface while blowing up the whole time making quite a racket. Also seen Merchants run aground and breakup, and numerous crashed and sunk E-boats. (This is not with the latest 1.45b mind you, I just got this version and haven't tried it yet. )
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Old 08-16-05, 12:44 AM   #23
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Hmmm.... weird happenings....

I've seen me a mermaid once... and I've even seen a shark eat an octopus.... but I've never seen no.. phantom Russian submarine....
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