I'm reading the Bible--and it's awesome - Page 2

Rip · 02-09-10, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Garion

Heheh I got a used version of this for Xmas, reading it now.

O'L Doughnuts had his work cut out for him fighting the beaurocracy. I was also surprised at the Number of and versions of Type 2 Ducks there were.

Cheers

Garion

OK I am only on Chapter five, don't spoil the ending.

TarJak · 02-09-10, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rip

OK I am only on Chapter five, don't spoil the ending.

Watch out for the twist nrear the end.

Sailor Steve · 02-09-10, 06:39 PM

The butler did it.

02-09-10, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The butler did it.

Here's me thinking it was Admiral Horton in the pond with the Hedgehog.

Steeltrap · 02-09-10, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Randomizer

Here's me thinking it was Admiral Horton in the pond with the Hedgehog.

Not Colonel Mustard?

LiveGoat · 02-09-10, 08:58 PM

Almost halfway through the first volume. The appendices alone are worth the price of the books. Am tempted to get Blair's book on the U.S. subs but will have to hold off. I've spent enough money this month as it is.

frau kaleun · 02-09-10, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Steeltrap

Not Colonel Mustard?

It was Rosebud, in the snow, with a sled.

Jimbuna · 02-10-10, 08:26 AM

They all die at the end.

brandtryan · 02-10-10, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by sharkbit

Too expensive. Look around on Amazon or e-bay.
I buy 99% of my books from one of those sites. New ones are even cheaper than B&N.

Don't be afraid to try used books. A lot of the books are listed as Used-Very Good Condition. When I've received them, they look as good as new.

I had to get mine used--it looks brand new though. I think it's out of print. I haven't ordered Volume II yet though, "The Hunted". I'll wait until the add-on for years 1943 to 1945 for SHV!

brandtryan · 02-10-10, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by LiveGoat

Almost halfway through the first volume. The appendices alone are worth the price of the books. Am tempted to get Blair's book on the U.S. subs but will have to hold off. I've spent enough money this month as it is.

Excellent book--though I must admit--only made it half way throught before wanting to switch to ATO, and thus buy those books instead.

If I were to review these books with a one-liner--it would be:

"These books will undoubtedly become the foundation for the Star Trek database on submarine warfare during WWII in the 20th Centry."

brandtryan · 02-10-10, 09:58 AM

Not providing any evidence, nor taking a position--but thought this would be a good discussion away from dev issues of game:

From forward page XIII of Clay Blair's Hitler's U-Boat War: The Hunters, 1939-1942

"The myths notwithstanding, only a tiny percentage of Allied merchant ships actually fell victim to U-boats. Ninety-nine percent of all Allied merchant ships in the transatlantic convoys reached assigned destinations." (Bold mine)

This may be known to all you guys--but it surprised the he** out of me.

mookiemookie · 02-10-10, 10:04 AM

I've always wanted to know what that percentage was counting only the years pre-1943.

SteamWake · 02-10-10, 10:05 AM

Im 99% sure thats true

bigboywooly · 02-10-10, 10:05 AM

Is that 99% for the whole war
Or just 39 - 42

After 43 convoys increased in frequency for the build up of invasions and the uboat threat was reduced significantly by then so if that figure is for the whole war would be about right

wonder if there any % year by year out there somwhere

Sailor Steve · 02-10-10, 10:38 AM

Uboat.net has a month-by-month page showing losses.
http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/losses_year.html

The total number of ships (including warships) hit by uboats was 2791, and that includes ships that were torpedoed or shelled but survived.
http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/index.html

Since the US alone built more than 2700 Liberty ships in just two years, it would seem that Germany's best chance to win the Battle of the Atlantic was in 1940. After that it was all downhill for them.

The Battle Of The Atlantic, by Terry Hughes and John Costello, has month-by-month charts showing Allied shipping at sea, number of ships and tonnage sunk, and u-boats lost.

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Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,059 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	They all die at the end. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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brandtryan Engineer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Indianapolis, United States Posts: 214 Downloads: 122 Uploads: 0	From the forward of Clay Blair's "Hitler's U-Boat War" Not providing any evidence, nor taking a position--but thought this would be a good discussion away from dev issues of game: From forward page XIII of Clay Blair's Hitler's U-Boat War: The Hunters, 1939-1942 "The myths notwithstanding, only a tiny percentage of Allied merchant ships actually fell victim to U-boats. Ninety-nine percent of all Allied merchant ships in the transatlantic convoys reached assigned destinations." (Bold mine) This may be known to all you guys--but it surprised the he** out of me. __________________ from Brandt

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mookiemookie Navy Seal Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,404 Downloads: 105 Uploads: 1	I've always wanted to know what that percentage was counting only the years pre-1943. __________________ They don’t think it be like it is, but it do. Want more U-boat Kaleun portraits for your SH3 Commander Profiles? Download the SH3 Commander Portrait Pack here.

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SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Im 99% sure thats true __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

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LiveGoat XO Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: New York City Posts: 408 Downloads: 439 Uploads: 0	Almost halfway through the first volume. The appendices alone are worth the price of the books. Am tempted to get Blair's book on the U.S. subs but will have to hold off. I've spent enough money this month as it is.

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bigboywooly Rear Admiral Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Swindon, England Posts: 10,151 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	Is that 99% for the whole war Or just 39 - 42 After 43 convoys increased in frequency for the build up of invasions and the uboat threat was reduced significantly by then so if that figure is for the whole war would be about right wonder if there any % year by year out there somwhere __________________ My mediafire page http://www.mediafire.com/?11eoq19bq9r41

02-10-10, 10:38 AM	#30
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Uboat.net has a month-by-month page showing losses. http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/losses_year.html The total number of ships (including warships) hit by uboats was 2791, and that includes ships that were torpedoed or shelled but survived. http://www.uboat.net/allies/merchants/index.html Since the US alone built more than 2700 Liberty ships in just two years, it would seem that Germany's best chance to win the Battle of the Atlantic was in 1940. After that it was all downhill for them. The Battle Of The Atlantic, by Terry Hughes and John Costello, has month-by-month charts showing Allied shipping at sea, number of ships and tonnage sunk, and u-boats lost. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo