Enough is enough

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[Adriatico]

Originally Posted by capthelm

i do agree, has become quite boring the forums lately on the negative rants on sh5.

Well, there are professionals called "Ubi marketing"... that are paid for making this and similar web sites "alive and kicking" by their input... which was in a last two weeks "gorgeous and exciting"...

If football game is boring - don't blame the crowd and fans... but ask professional players! ...what we should be inspired about ?

Except DRM disaster... there is "raido silence" on Ubi side... with a few arcade screens.

So we can find the way to keep the SH brand alive... or leave it to it's destiny in web silence... boring in both ways.

And if you think that in their own garden, "Ubi forums", the mood is better... check it out

Afterall, I agree with you... it is damn boring and pesimistic... despite the IQ of members... quess whom to blame?

EDIT: This whole post just won't work. -- NS

[Iron Budokan]

We don't have to play this game to know there are elements within (all duly noted and accounted for from UBI itself) that are, to many of us, troublesome to say the least.

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by zulus

Right.. And if UBI won't remove it - there will always be somebody who will remove it for us..

Maybe, maybe not. But this still will not fix the heart of the problem.
If and I say if you buy SH V out of a sense of loyalty to the devs or the series (although you don't like the drm) and then you get the non official version because it plays better, you are still accepting Ubisofts policy.

Things are simple : if you don't accept the drm you don't buy the game until Ubisoft decides to remove it. When will it be who knows. 1, 2 or even 5 years down the road or maybe never.

If you accept the drm then you'll buy the game.


There are no middle roads here, its one or the other.

Originally Posted by goldorak

Things are simple : if you don't accept the drm you don't buy the game until Ubisoft decides to remove it. When will it be who knows. 1, 2 or even 5 years down the road or maybe never.

If you accept the drm then you'll buy the game.


There are no middle roads here, its one or the other.

this is why as far as i am concerned there is no sh5

one day IF UBI decides they want to release a version of sh5 that I can play then i will buy it but for now they may as well call it a playstation game because it isnt usable on my PC

[gimpy117]

Originally Posted by zulus

With all respect I hope you do realize that most ppl are clever human beings and they can obviously make appropiate conclussions from what they're allowed to know by given info. So basically you don;t need to wait untill the very first release to judge about what this game will be like.

yes, we allowed to have opinions, but not jump the gun when ubi puts out a few screen shots and videos. i just feel were being very trivial fans who are used to GWX

[Mud]

Originally Posted by zulus

Right.. And if UBI won't remove it - there will always be somebody who will remove it for us..

If so then that whole DRM/OSP thing is a farce and that whole anti pirate protection is a big joke.
And who knows, maybe it is ..............

Mud

[goldorak]

Originally Posted by Webster

this is why as far as i am concerned there is no sh5

one day IF UBI decides they want to release a version of sh5 that I can play then i will buy it but for now they may as well call it a playstation game because it isnt usable on my PC

Don't tell that to me.
I stick to my principles even if it means I don't get to play the game. Case in point SH 3. I've waited several years before finally buying a budget edition that came DRM free.
I've played it years after everybody else but I still enjoyed the game.
In some cases I've had to abandon any hope of ever playing some obscur or niche titles (such as sequels to lock on or even dcs : black shark) simply because the publisher or the devs never cared to release a drm free version.
Gaming is not a drug, its not a work it has to be an enjoyable endevour.
And going crazy over drm, what it can do to hardware, create incompatibilities, blue screens etc... is not what I consider a smooth trouble free experience.
So years agoi I decided to only buy those games that have had their DRM removed officially. I buy less games, but those that I have give me no trouble whatsoever (except for the normal bugs).

[Platapus]

Originally Posted by oscar19681

The funny thing is nobody ...seen anything in depth enough to say how it will be.

You have identified the problem. Ubi has chosen (and it is their choice) to only show us glitzy graphic eye candy and nothing significant about the actual game play attributes. Why would a software developer/distributor do some thing like this?

One reason is that perhaps the glitzy graphic eye candy is the best that SH5 can offer its customers.

It may not be fair to Ubi, but no one ever claimed that business was fair, but if Ubi chooses to release only limited information, it is only human for the members of this forum to make assumptions. They may be right, they may be wrong.

But if Ubi were truly interested in "selling" this game to not only the customer base that likes glitzy graphic eye candy, but to the customer base that likes game play realism simulation, Ubi would release more information.

People bitch about SH5 because they care. it is important to us. We want SH5 to succeed, but due to the lack of information from Ubi, we are stuck with the inferences we make with the information we are given.

That's why some of us are upset... because we don't know what SH5 will be.

Only Ubi can fix this, but it appears they are not interested in mitigating this issue.

if the fisherman lets the fish sit on deck to spoil he cant then turn around and complain because you arent buying his spoiled smelly fish now can he?

in my mind UBI has worked very very hard to make people be dissappointed in what we have seen so far and it is all their doing

not because we are just too spoiled and demanding and asking for too much

[theluckyone17]

Originally Posted by frau kaleun

Despite all the fun I've had in other threads cracking wise about various presumed elements of SHV based on info released so far... I can tell you without hesitation that I would absolutely buy "Das Boot: The Game."

If it turned out to be more arcade-y or whatever then I would consider it a very fast and shiny alternative to SH3+GWX3 and probably have some fun with it. If it got modded to be something more/better/different, I'd probably have some fun with that too.

What I will not do is pay the full release-date price for any single-player game that limits my ability to play it whenever and for however long I like by making that ability utterly dependent on the reliable service and continued goodwill of a corporation over which I have no control and which already has my money.

Exactly. Well said, and it states my stance as well. I will stand my ground, too.

As an aside, are you married? Do you have a sister? Wait, I'm married. Will you talk some sense into my wife for me?

[THE_MASK]

Apart from the crew abilities which i hope can be modded (cannot see why not) I cannot see anyone bashing SH5 . OPS on the other hand deserves to be bashed to death .

[Steeltrap]

Originally Posted by theluckyone17

Wait, I'm married. Will you talk some sense into my wife for me?

Why? Do you want her to leave you?

[frau kaleun]

Hey, wait a minute. That was, like, the best set-up ever... and you stole it from me while I was logged out!



I guess I'm just gonna have to stay connected to Subsim all the time now.



Hey, wait a minute...