New Interface for Uboats - Page 20

Catfish · 01-17-10, 06:21 AM

Hellop,
i'm still reading and trying, 'twas the first time i realized the AOB would not change after having once entered it - as long as you did not mess it up with certain actions lol

The manual is very thorough, but i'm not yet finished

Thanks and greetings,
Catfish

looney · 01-18-10, 10:14 AM

I think I'm goin to need to edit the file as to get a better view of the stadimeter and aobwheel buttons.

karamazovnew · 01-19-10, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by looney

I think I'm goin to need to edit the file as to get a better view of the stadimeter and aobwheel buttons.

Go ahead, just increase the contrast in "\Data\Menu\Karamazov\PeriButtons.tga" file in Photoshop of Gimp. The background should be a perfect black. Make sure not to mess up the alpha channel. I've kept them a bit darker because I didn't want them to look too modern or intrusive.

As a note, my monitor is a LCD that can't display pure black so it's possible that the entire interface might be too dark for some.

looney · 01-19-10, 01:54 PM

am gonna try that next weekend

karamazovnew · 02-01-10, 12:59 PM

I just added images to the scaling/pivots post, a picture is worth 1000 words

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...28&postcount=7

Hitman · 02-01-10, 02:34 PM

Hummm theoretically this all could work equally with the american TDC, right?

It has always bothered me that both the slide out TDC and the multi-purpose tool (Range/AOB/Speed) seem to get smaller the higher the screen resolution

karamazovnew · 02-01-10, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

Hummm theoretically this all could work equally with the american TDC, right?

It has always bothered me that both the slide out TDC and the multi-purpose tool (Range/AOB/Speed) seem to get smaller the higher the screen resolution

Exactly. Change all items from 0 1 to 1 1 and it should work immediately without any other fuss.

Hitman · 02-01-10, 03:13 PM

I gave it a quick look, and surprisingly all items seem to be the german ones, despite using FRB

Does the multipurpose tool use the same menu entries as the notepad for the german side did (Seems like that but...)?

And where is the slide out TDC?

karamazovnew · 02-01-10, 03:21 PM

None of the items you're looking for are in the G26 Page... for the US side that only gives you clicking masks, the background and the periscope marks. That's the reason why anyone can use KiuB in TMO or RFB for example, simply by copy-pasting the new dials and the G26 Page, as it doesn't change the US interface at all. There are 3 other pages that control the 3 slideable sections of the US interface, PK, TDC input, Torpedo buttons. I don't remember which they are right now... but they're easy to find.

Galanti · 02-03-10, 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by karamazovnew

So.. did it help? Have I managed to turn anyone to manual targeting?

It's a phenomenal piece of work, but...I am mainly loving the eyecandy of having the TDC dials visible from the scope, and being able to work the knobs right from that screen.

The AOBwheel...not so much...is there anyway I could mod the stadimeter to send range to the TDC like in olden times?

karamazovnew · 02-03-10, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Galanti

It's a phenomenal piece of work, but...I am mainly loving the eyecandy of having the TDC dials visible from the scope, and being able to work the knobs right from that screen.

The AOBwheel...not so much...is there anyway I could mod the stadimeter to send range to the TDC like in olden times?

You can use the old Stadimeter and notepad in the Observation scope. I haven't touched that part. Just remember that using the stadimeter that way will reset your speed to zero and will probably mess up your AOB too

Galanti · 02-03-10, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by karamazovnew

You can use the old Stadimeter and notepad in the Observation scope. I haven't touched that part. Just remember that using the stadimeter that way will reset your speed to zero and will probably mess up your AOB too

Yeah, I know....I'm going to have resort to a combination of Obs scope, Attack scope and manual inouts to get my hits in while I figure out the AOB wheel.

Is is possible to set the whole TDC to manual, input range, AOB and speed while locked onto the target? In other words, can we use your wonderful mod without the AOB wheel?

karamazovnew · 02-03-10, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Galanti

Yeah, I know....I'm going to have resort to a combination of Obs scope, Attack scope and manual inouts to get my hits in while I figure out the AOB wheel.

Is is possible to set the whole TDC to manual, input range, AOB and speed while locked onto the target? In other words, can we use your wonderful mod without the AOB wheel?

I really don't understand why you're so against the AOB wheel. It's a wonderful tool. Yes you can set the TDC while being locked on a target but if that target is fast, you'll end up with AOB error. If the target "travels" 20 degrees while you're setting your TDC, the AOB will be 20 degrees wrong. I suggest you persist with the AOBF, it's VERY simple once you get the hang of it. Try making some custom missions and place static ships at known distances and angles. That's how I tested the AOBF in the first place

BTW. my 1000'th post, it's only fair to write it here on this thread

Galanti · 02-03-10, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by karamazovnew

I really don't understand why you're so against the AOB wheel. It's a wonderful tool. Yes you can set the TDC while being locked on a target but if that target is fast, you'll end up with AOB error. If the target "travels" 20 degrees while you're setting your TDC, the AOB will be 20 degrees wrong. I suggest you persist with the AOBF, it's VERY simple once you get the hang of it. Try making some custom missions and place static ships at known distances and angles. That's how I tested the AOBF in the first place

BTW. my 1000'th post, it's only fair to write it here on this thread

Congrats!

I'm not against it, rather I'm terrible with lengthy procedures. I will keep at it.....

karamazovnew · 02-03-10, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Galanti

Congrats!

I'm not against it, rather I'm terrible with lengthy procedures. I will keep at it.....

Practice makes perfect. It only takes me 20 seconds or so to get an AOB reading. It takes less than 10 seconds to calculate the range. Never try for perfect readings. One golden rule is that errors usually compensate eachother.

That manual might be hard to follow

I wish I had the time to make a movie, but my voice sucks

"Heye we zee thye enyemy wessel"

02-01-10, 02:34 PM	#291
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	Hummm theoretically this all could work equally with the american TDC, right? It has always bothered me that both the slide out TDC and the multi-purpose tool (Range/AOB/Speed) seem to get smaller the higher the screen resolution __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

02-01-10, 03:13 PM	#293
Hitman Pacific Aces Dev Team Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Spain Posts: 6,109 Downloads: 109 Uploads: 2	I gave it a quick look, and surprisingly all items seem to be the german ones, despite using FRB Does the multipurpose tool use the same menu entries as the notepad for the german side did (Seems like that but...)? And where is the slide out TDC? __________________ One day I will return to sea ...

01-17-10, 06:21 AM	#286
Catfish Dipped Squirrel Operative Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: ..where the ocean meets the sky Posts: 17,767 Downloads: 38 Uploads: 0	Hellop, i'm still reading and trying, 'twas the first time i realized the AOB would not change after having once entered it - as long as you did not mess it up with certain actions lol The manual is very thorough, but i'm not yet finished Thanks and greetings, Catfish

01-18-10, 10:14 AM	#287
looney Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sneek, The Netherlands Posts: 635 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I think I'm goin to need to edit the file as to get a better view of the stadimeter and aobwheel buttons.

01-19-10, 01:54 PM	#289
looney Commodore Join Date: May 2007 Location: Sneek, The Netherlands Posts: 635 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	am gonna try that next weekend

02-01-10, 12:59 PM	#290
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	I just added images to the scaling/pivots post, a picture is worth 1000 words http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...28&postcount=7

02-01-10, 03:21 PM	#294
karamazovnew The Old Man Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 1,403 Downloads: 151 Uploads: 0	None of the items you're looking for are in the G26 Page... for the US side that only gives you clicking masks, the background and the periscope marks. That's the reason why anyone can use KiuB in TMO or RFB for example, simply by copy-pasting the new dials and the G26 Page, as it doesn't change the US interface at all. There are 3 other pages that control the 3 slideable sections of the US interface, PK, TDC input, Torpedo buttons. I don't remember which they are right now... but they're easy to find.