All those not buying SH5 please move along.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by trenken

Yeah im pretty sure if you're here complaining about having to play a game online, I think you're the one out of touch.

If Im out of touch, please explain to me why the entire gaming industry is transitioning to online? Good luck coming up with an excuse for that one.

You can make posts about this all day, online is where it's all heading. You wont change that.

And this was brought to you by UBISOFT

[trenken]

Originally Posted by IanC

There is so many things wrong with your post, I don't even know where to start.

To you I suppose, since you dont want to deal with the reality of the situation. This isnt something just ubi is doing, its happening everywhere, on both PC and consoles.

[ETR3(SS)]

One question Trenken. But first this statement, I understand that you have an opinion and are entitled to it. Now the question. Why, when your views are challenged with facts, do you refuse to debate your position?

[trenken]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

He's so myopic that he has it backwards. Customers dictate the market, not producers. And he thinks customers have no voice. Good luck with that line of thinking, buddy.

K, well, there is still almost half the country on dial up, yet you cannot possibly play a modern game on it. Explain that one to me.

Technology improves, you roll with it or get left behind. It's ALWAYS been that way.

If you do not want to play games on broadband or do not have a constant connection, we'll just see where that leads you.

[FIREWALL]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

One question Trenken. But first this statement, I understand that you have an opinion and are entitled to it. Now the question. Why, when your views are challenged with facts, do you refuse to debate your position?

His position is a Ubisoft Damage Control employee.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by ETR3(SS)

One question Trenken. But first this statement, I understand that you have an opinion and are entitled to it. Now the question. Why, when your views are challenged with facts, do you refuse to debate your position?

What facts? Someone said only 60% of the country is on broadband, well please explain to me why you cannot play games on dial up anymore?

Those people are being left behind, just as those are now that do not want to play games that require a constant connection.

You can fight it all day, you'll be left going back to SH3 while the rest of us get to enjoy every game that comes out without limitation.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

I'm suprised at the fact that you've been registered here for 4 years, yet dont know just how much of an influence this community actually has. I'm sure one of our esteemed historians will explain about SH3's Dynamic Campaign.

[IanC]

trenken, news flash. Just because something is new, doesn't mean it's better.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by trenken

while the rest of us get to enjoy every game that comes out without limitation.

Except for when the server goes down. Or when there's a power outage. Or when your travelling on a plane/train. Or when the company decides not to support that game anymore. Or when you move into an area without good broadband service. But other than that, without limitation.

[guynoir]

Originally Posted by FIREWALL

Good post Btw you just ruined a theory I had.

Errr, what theory is that?

It's not the 'trenken sees reason and empathizes with his fellow simmers' theory is it? ...because I'm afraid I have some sad news for you.

[Kapitan_Phillips]

Come on guys, no need to get spiteful. The Doctor has spoken

[trenken]

Once again stubborn people here unwilling to let someone have an opinion. Ive played 4 DRM games, all work just fine for me.

You're anti-DRM, well thats fine by me, you can also fight against broadband, HD, whatever else you dont want to adopt, you're allowed to feel that way. There's a lot of things I havent yet adopted, but I dont expect the world to wait for me to get on board. Ill just stay behind and live with it. Same thing is happening here. You guys want technology to just go on hold for you.

Just as you are allowed to be against it, I am allowed to actually be in favor of DRM. There's a lot I like about it, and you're just going to have to live with that. You have your opinion, I have mine, stop wasting time attacking me for it.

[TDK1044]

Only the Publisher benefits from the end user being forced to be connected to their servers. And wait until the first Publisher calls for a $5 monthly fee once the online DRM trend is established. Undoubtedly, those here that will forgive this publisher anything because they are the only one producing subsims will then be saying "Come on. It's $5. Everyone can afford that. The Publisher can't afford to give us server access for free."

The only justification for online access is multi player.

[ETR3(SS)]

Fact about broadband users in the US.


http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=581


Here's a chance I gave you to support or debunk your stance:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=559

I gave you a chance again to debate:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=567

You chose not to take it, so I filled in with facts:

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/show...&postcount=591


The reason you are being singled out like you are is because you refuse to debate your position and instead say the same thing over and over.

[trenken]

Originally Posted by TDK1044

Only the Publisher benefits from the end user being forced to be connected to their servers.

Thats your opinion. Many of us that own some DRM games have found some nice advantages to it. For me the primary one would be I love not having my save files on my machine. They are protected on a server so that if my machine decides to meltdown on me, I dont look months or years of progress. Big fan of that.