Map with mined areas!

[johan_d]

how did the uboat commanders noticed them if they had a high suspiscion of mines?

did they use sonar? or hydro ? or submerge a bit and look thru the periscope? how did they steer between them irl ?

[Wreford-Brown]

U-boat commanders would avoid known mined areas and new enemy minefields would be reported when found,either by a ship hitting them or by sighting of mine laying by ship or aircraft. They generally had to apply the 'big sea, small mine' theory.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by johan_d

how did the uboat commanders noticed them if they had a high suspiscion of mines?

did they use sonar? or hydro ? or submerge a bit and look thru the periscope? how did they steer between them irl ?

Passive sonar (hydrophones) won't pick up anything that's not making noise. Active sonar might bounce off the mines in the proper fashion, but that many small objects would give a hard-to-determine return. The water is far too dark and murky to see mines (or falling depth charges) through a periscope lens.

The answer is they didn't have a clue, except as has been described above.

[urfisch]

no wonder, many boats where sunk by mines...especially when leaving/returning harbours, or sailing in the entrance of the western areas to the british isle.

[TarJak]

The approaches to the Irish Sea and English Channel were called Winston's doormat. Lots of mines and the welcome sign was definately not out.

[bigboywooly]

In reality there were a lot more mines out there in RL than in game
Game cannot handle the amount and density there should be

[floundericiousWA]

I've encountered that in both GWX and vanilla SH3 and that ***t is HAIR RAISING!

I was snooping the west entrance to Scapa in early 1940 the next patrol after pulling a duplication of Prien's feat...when I left in late '39, the run out that west channel was wide open (aside from frantically dodging the elco boats and trying to reach open water before the shore batteries could see me).

When I came back in early '40, I was snooping and happened to see a mine as the periscope was going up...

I went to external view and I was sitting in a pocket between several mines (it gave me the "how the hell did I not hit ANY of them!?!!?" reaction) and ended up slowly backing out then hauling butt out to clear waters.

The only way to deal with it is to avoid known minefields and trust that you'll slide between any mines you come across...if you're wrong, that'll be all she wrote in short order!

[timwatson]

I've ventured into Scapa 8 times using the west entrance. Mines are the only real threat unless one is careless enough to surface within visible distance of shore batteries.

My solution: set course within 95m of the south shoreline (at the base of the cliffs running east/westerly. Once near the island which has a searchlight and gun casement on its western verge, you are clear to proceed. Only one Elco naval unit patrols this area.

Once past the "narrows" and just past the 5 casement shore battery, there you will find one anchored DD and the prize: a 33,000 ton Floating Drydock to the south of the DD.

I avoid the DD's asdic by taking a long range (roughly 3km) T2 contact pistol shot set at 1m depth to avoid the submarine net positioned about 300m north of the Floating Dock. The dock's orientation is always within about 30 degrees of your eel's track line, and it is always stationary.

By the time torpedo detonation occurs, I am already headed back to the west Scapa Flow entrance at silent speed. I also take the precaution to have previously marked the plotted course before navigating the minefield so as to replacate the exact course used during the inbound leg.

Sad to annouce since the beginning of 1942 the game isn't placing the dock at this location.

I'm beginning my 11th mission, and have sunk 1.9 million tons to date.

Hopefully this will help your endeavors, and I hope to hear of your successes!

kaleun Rolfe Hass

Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

I've encountered that in both GWX and vanilla SH3 and that ***t is HAIR RAISING!

I was snooping the west entrance to Scapa in early 1940 the next patrol after pulling a duplication of Prien's feat...when I left in late '39, the run out that west channel was wide open (aside from frantically dodging the elco boats and trying to reach open water before the shore batteries could see me).

When I came back in early '40, I was snooping and happened to see a mine as the periscope was going up...

I went to external view and I was sitting in a pocket between several mines (it gave me the "how the hell did I not hit ANY of them!?!!?" reaction) and ended up slowly backing out then hauling butt out to clear waters.

The only way to deal with it is to avoid known minefields and trust that you'll slide between any mines you come across...if you're wrong, that'll be all she wrote in short order!

[floundericiousWA]

Originally Posted by bigboywooly

In reality there were a lot more mines out there in RL than in game
Game cannot handle the amount and density there should be

in RL you probably could have walked from england to france without getting your torso wet just walking on the mines

[Red Heat]

Terrible weapon...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_mine