The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

Tigrone · 01-28-10, 04:32 PM

I am very uncomfortable with the requirement to have a Ubisoft account and to be continously logged-in to it while using the game. It becomes an on-line game. I do not play online games. I am uncomfortable with giving a commercial vendor the amount of personal and use information that seems to be implied. I do not like the idea of being dependent on their good will or existence to able to play the game at all.

I avoid being continuously connected to the Internet for security reasons and for performance reasons. My normal practice is to clear my PC of anything latent, running in the background, and to disconnect from the web before loading a game.

I have Verizon high speed DSL, but it losses its connection periodically for up to a minute or 2, several times a day, occasionally requiring a modem reboot; or, it lags, especially later in the evening.

I also have Verizon high speed wireless, but it can lose its connection briefly or suffer lag too. Also, it is not as fast, as the DSL.

I find connections through online servers increase lag time.

This is something that will cause me not to buy SH5 if it comes true. I dislike that very much. I was really looking forward to it. I have owned every title or variation in SH or Command AOD, since they began. I am a longtime fan of sub sims and flight sims. Right now, Il2-46 and SH 3 & 4 are the games I always keep on my PC.

At least I will not need to pay to get a new PC to be up to speed for the new game's specs. But, that does not make me feel any better; I was really looking forward to SH5. I hope my understanding of this is wrong, and I'll see how it plays out after SH5 releases, but I am not hopeful after reading all the links and articles about it.

subdba · 01-28-10, 05:13 PM

Well, add my name to the list of people who will not be buying SH5. Too bad really, I have bought and enjoyed every SH title (except for SH2) and all their respective add-ons. I could stomach an initial (one-time) online activation but the concept of having to authenticate everytime I want to play is unacceptable to me. I will check once in awhile to see if a GOY or something like that ever comes out without this terrible scheme and consider buying SH5 if it get cleaned up down the road.

jbeatty · 01-28-10, 05:45 PM

I like so many other IT admin have time to play games while waiting for a server to go down or a user to forget their paswword. to break up the time I play SH III/IV. Can't do it over the internet at work!!

If I can't play it form the desktop, I won't play. Oh well, SH V sounded so interesting and fun.

Thanks UbiSoft for Peeing in my Wheaties. You just put SH V and flushed trhe TDU.

maurader · 01-28-10, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jbeatty

I like so many other IT admin have time to play games while waiting for a server to go down or a user to forget their paswword. to break up the time I play SH III/IV. Can't do it over the internet at work!!

If I can't play it form the desktop, I won't play. Oh well, SH V sounded so interesting and fun.

Thanks UbiSoft for Peeing in my Wheaties. You just put SH V and flushed trhe TDU.

Wow you can play SH4 at work but can't get on the Internet at work.
My guess is you shouldn't be playing SH4 at work either.
But the new DRM method would log what you are doing at work. LOL.

Pretty cushy IT job though. My IT job is so busy I don't even have time to pee in my Wheaties

01-28-10, 06:28 PM

IT guys are like firemen, lots of slow periods followed by shear panic and lots of screaming lol.

maurader · 01-28-10, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Webster

IT guys are like firemen, lots of slow periods followed by shear panic and lots of screaming lol.

Maybe that's why we like sub sims.
Sounds similar to life on a submarine.

Alienfresser · 01-29-10, 03:28 AM

No.

Submariner's have a much higher survival rate then IT-Guys.

Seaman_Hornsby · 01-28-10, 05:32 PM

I'm shocked at this turn of events. I have Steam, and a few games through it, but it is not my favorite DRM system. But the critical thing that makes Steam work is the OFFLINE MODE. You can still play your paid-for games if your connection goes down or is unavailable.

For Ubisoft to implement a constant-connection system seems baffling. I was looking forward very much to SH5 and being able to run around the boat, but now I'm going to have to adopt a wait-and-see approach.

sergei · 01-29-10, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Seaman_Hornsby

But the critical thing that makes Steam work is the OFFLINE MODE. You can still play your paid-for games if your connection goes down or is unavailable.

Yeah, and this seems to be the point that Trenken is missing.
Not all DRMs are created equal.

01-28-10, 04:32 PM	#1
Tigrone Commander Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newport Beach, CA Posts: 470 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	I'm afraid this not acceptable to me if true. I am very uncomfortable with the requirement to have a Ubisoft account and to be continously logged-in to it while using the game. It becomes an on-line game. I do not play online games. I am uncomfortable with giving a commercial vendor the amount of personal and use information that seems to be implied. I do not like the idea of being dependent on their good will or existence to able to play the game at all. I avoid being continuously connected to the Internet for security reasons and for performance reasons. My normal practice is to clear my PC of anything latent, running in the background, and to disconnect from the web before loading a game. I have Verizon high speed DSL, but it losses its connection periodically for up to a minute or 2, several times a day, occasionally requiring a modem reboot; or, it lags, especially later in the evening. I also have Verizon high speed wireless, but it can lose its connection briefly or suffer lag too. Also, it is not as fast, as the DSL. I find connections through online servers increase lag time. This is something that will cause me not to buy SH5 if it comes true. I dislike that very much. I was really looking forward to it. I have owned every title or variation in SH or Command AOD, since they began. I am a longtime fan of sub sims and flight sims. Right now, Il2-46 and SH 3 & 4 are the games I always keep on my PC. At least I will not need to pay to get a new PC to be up to speed for the new game's specs. But, that does not make me feel any better; I was really looking forward to SH5. I hope my understanding of this is wrong, and I'll see how it plays out after SH5 releases, but I am not hopeful after reading all the links and articles about it. __________________ Commander Hiram Cassedy: "Tigrone has saved the Air Force and is now returning to Iwo Jima with 28 rescued zoomies." B-29 SNUFFY & THE SHIF'LESS SKONKS among them. I've a broom at the mast said he, for the broom is a sign for me, that wherever I go, I sweep the mighty sea.

01-28-10, 05:45 PM	#3
jbeatty Nub Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 3 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well that just Pee'd in my Wheaties I like so many other IT admin have time to play games while waiting for a server to go down or a user to forget their paswword. to break up the time I play SH III/IV. Can't do it over the internet at work!! If I can't play it form the desktop, I won't play. Oh well, SH V sounded so interesting and fun. Thanks UbiSoft for Peeing in my Wheaties. You just put SH V and flushed trhe TDU.

01-29-10, 03:28 AM	#7
Alienfresser Watch Join Date: May 2005 Location: Irgendwo Posts: 18 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	No. Submariner's have a much higher survival rate then IT-Guys. __________________ I sieg nix, i soag nix und i hoer nix. Basta

01-28-10, 05:32 PM	#8
Seaman_Hornsby Engineer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 203 Downloads: 71 Uploads: 0	I'm shocked at this turn of events. I have Steam, and a few games through it, but it is not my favorite DRM system. But the critical thing that makes Steam work is the OFFLINE MODE. You can still play your paid-for games if your connection goes down or is unavailable. For Ubisoft to implement a constant-connection system seems baffling. I was looking forward very much to SH5 and being able to run around the boat, but now I'm going to have to adopt a wait-and-see approach. __________________ Friends, when once a man is launched on such an adventure as this, he must bid farewell to hopes and fears, otherwise death or deliverance will both come too late to save his honor and his reason.

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01-28-10, 05:13 PM	#2
subdba Bilge Rat Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1 Downloads: 41 Uploads: 0	Well, add my name to the list of people who will not be buying SH5. Too bad really, I have bought and enjoyed every SH title (except for SH2) and all their respective add-ons. I could stomach an initial (one-time) online activation but the concept of having to authenticate everytime I want to play is unacceptable to me. I will check once in awhile to see if a GOY or something like that ever comes out without this terrible scheme and consider buying SH5 if it get cleaned up down the road.

01-28-10, 06:28 PM	#5
Webster Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	IT guys are like firemen, lots of slow periods followed by shear panic and lots of screaming lol.