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Old 01-27-10, 09:28 AM   #1
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Makes it harder to pirate so i can understand this having to be logged into the net before playing.You can't blame devs for wanting to head in this direction.
Sorry but that's pure fantasy.
http://filenetworks.blogspot.com/200...war-steam.html
Just as an example. There are few games that are not cracked within 3 days of release, most of them BEFORE release!

All this does is remove the 2nd hand market, and possibly make companies feel like they're doing something.
Well, they are doing something.. aggravating legitimate users.
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Old 01-27-10, 10:22 AM   #2
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Sorry but that's pure fantasy.
http://filenetworks.blogspot.com/200...war-steam.html
Just as an example. There are few games that are not cracked within 3 days of release, most of them BEFORE release!

All this does is remove the 2nd hand market, and possibly make companies feel like they're doing something.
Well, they are doing something.. aggravating legitimate users.
STEAM itself was cracked years before Empire TW. You could find sites that offered EVERY game that was distributed via Steam.

Another pretty good example of "impossible to crack or if you crack you cant play because online stuff" games would be World of Warcraft and Lineage II. Both MMORPG's relying on the player being connected to the game's server. Ooops, both cracked and running large private servers.

But look at the bright side. Assassin Creed 2 is coming, which will most propably use this online thingy. With that "hot" title, scene groups will be all over it and once it eventually gets cracked, I hope Ubi takes notes and gets rid of the system.
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Old 01-27-10, 10:32 AM   #3
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STEAM itself was cracked years before Empire TW. You could find sites that offered EVERY game that was distributed via Steam.

Another pretty good example of "impossible to crack or if you crack you cant play because online stuff" games would be World of Warcraft and Lineage II. Both MMORPG's relying on the player being connected to the game's server. Ooops, both cracked and running large private servers.

Yep, thing is blizzard don't mind about the private servers in fact they probably see it as a good thing for promoting the game & the private servers don't charge so no reason to hunt them down. They are never heavily populated either. I log onto a private server on maintenance days (tuesdays) as blizzards servers are usually down for 9-10 hrs so everyone heads to the private servers to pvp. lol

Anyways im going off track now.

AS long as i can run SH5 without any online issues im okay with it.
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Old 01-27-10, 11:00 AM   #4
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This is how most MMOs work, and it's a very cool thing. What this does is protect your progress in the game. It's not tied to some file on your computer, but rather to the servers.

It means that if your PC has a meltdown, and you get a new PC and install SH5 on it, no progress is lost. Or you could for example install SH5 on your work computer as well as home, swtch between both and the save file is shared between them. It's really cool. Uh, why would anyone ever complain about this?
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Old 01-27-10, 11:13 AM   #5
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This is how most MMOs work, and it's a very cool thing. What this does is protect your progress in the game. It's not tied to some file on your computer, but rather to the servers.

It means that if your PC has a meltdown, and you get a new PC and install SH5 on it, no progress is lost. Or you could for example install SH5 on your work computer as well as home, swtch between both and the save file is shared between them. It's really cool. Uh, why would anyone ever complain about this?
It's about reliability. I take care of my PC, both hardware and software. I've never lost data, and I've had 1 hardware failure in 15 years of PC ownership.
MMO servers go offline weekly, usually at the most annoying times (especially if you're not in the hosting country)
As an example, Fallen Earth MMO was offline due to server problems and updates when I was snowed at home for 2 days, so i couldn't play it at all.
Very inconvenient, but part of the package as it were for an MMO. If I want to play a game with others, I need to be online.
For a single player game, this is all the potential server problems with NONE of the benefits.

To summarise, no lost data in 15 years on my PC. Servers unavailable weekly for a few hours.
That's a pretty easy choice for me which I prefer.
If your PC melts down weekly, I really feel sorry for you.
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Old 01-27-10, 11:18 AM   #6
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It's about reliability. I take care of my PC, both hardware and software. I've never lost data, and I've had 1 hardware failure in 15 years of PC ownership.
MMO servers go offline weekly, usually at the most annoying times (especially if you're not in the hosting country)
As an example, Fallen Earth MMO was offline due to server problems and updates when I was snowed at home for 2 days, so i couldn't play it at all.
Very inconvenient, but part of the package as it were for an MMO. If I want to play a game with others, I need to be online.
For a single player game, this is all the potential server problems with NONE of the benefits.

To summarise, no lost data in 15 years on my PC. Servers unavailable weekly for a few hours.
That's a pretty easy choice for me which I prefer.
If your PC melts down weekly, I really feel sorry for you.
Its a PC, it had a chance to die no matter what you do to it. You've been one of the very lucky ones because I dont know anyone who's not lost anything on a PC in 15 years, but you're going to be real pissed if you lost 100s of hours of gameplay if your PC does decide to die.

Just because it hasnt happened to you doesnt mean it cant happen. To some people, you cant risk losing that much gameplay, no matter how lucky you've been so far.

Ive been playing the MMO guild wars for 3 years now, never once have I been kicked from the server, and ANET uses the exact same system Ubi is now using. Id rather run the risk of losing a couple hours of progress rather than 100s of hours of progress. Thats just me though apparently.
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Old 01-27-10, 11:27 AM   #7
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If ym pc melts down my save will be the last thing i will be worring about. It is my understanding that everything gets craked so this wont last that long.I just hope ubi will be smart enough to remove it on time and give the game a chance to evolve through moding.If it cant be moded you can imagine how fast it will go old and boring.
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