The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread

[theluckyone17]

I gain nothing from this particular DRM:
I've got plenty of other games where I have to insert the disc to play.
I have only one gaming PC.
I have plenty of hard drive space to save games locally.

I have no interest in buying into DRM that does not provide a single benefit to me, while placing additional limitations upon me.

Constantly connected to the internet? Yeah, I am... most of the time... until Roadrunner goes out, my router acts up, cat chews on the ethernet cable.

God forbid I go wireless with my desktop, as I have in the past. A few dropped packets? Pop, I'm out of my game 'cause Ubisoft can't reach me.

I realize the EULA states I only bought a license to play, and I have not purchased the game itself. As a result, there are limitations placed on the license. Well, I don't like those limitations. Unfortunately, unlike most contracts, I can't negotiate for a EULA without those limitations. Guess I won't be entering into that contract.

Congratulations, Ubisoft. Your implementation of DRM has taken my die-hard "Gotta *HAVE* SH5 when it comes out" attitude and converted it into a "I'll pass, thank you very much". Add one more reason a niche-market game can have to bomb.

[ReM]

I am disappointed to hear that UBI are shooting themselves in the foot by forcing this too-intrusive DRM software upon us.

To be honest I am not sure whether I will buy the game or not. Chances are that the connected-to-internet obligation will be lifted after the first hype an biggest part of sales have passed.

Although I own an original Starforce-infected copy of SHIII I was able to find another one in the bargain bin, without map and booklet, but also without Starforce and patched to 1.4b as well (for a whopping € 5,-) I see the same scenario for SHV; a little patience may solve the whole matter.

I am also still counting on IW to make dedicated servers possible for MW2 as well...maybe not overly realistic but I think everything will work out fine in the long end. Same goes for SHV.

[tonschk]

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The Silent Hunter SH3/4 game is the ONLY one game I play ( the first person shooters games are silly/boring ) and I have excellent and permanent internet connection , UBISOFT is the owner/developer of this software/game ,unfortunately we dont have plenty of other submarine simulations to choose from , therefore without a doubt I will buy this SH5 game


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UBI BEWARE THIS SIGN IT BITES HARD: I hope UBI will still reconsider the choice about DRMAnd please x1000 times don't make me be a sinner.Make me want to buy it proudly.

[Danji]

Originally Posted by zulus

UBI BEWARE THIS SIGN IT BITES HARD: I hope UBI will still reconsider the choice about DRMAnd please x1000 times don't make me be a sinner.Make me want to buy it proudly.

I'm not sure, but i think that's one of the reasons they're protecting the game with such an anti-piracy system. It's a vicious circle.

[Hitman]

It's funny that some people I have seen in this thread being not bothered with this kind of DRM are americans. The sons of the land of freedom are now ready to provide real time info to a foreign commercial company about their gameplay habits, their saves, the names they choose, wether they machine gun survivors from sunken ships, etc.

I think most of you still do not realize that this is not just about your confort while playing the game, about chances of getting an internet failiure and losing progress, about the chances that UBI goes bankrupt and you lose your game, about UBI requesting money for patches and the server not allwoing you to play an unpatched version, or anything like that.

It's about OUR PRIVACY

And that is something that I value more than any game present or future.

How sad I feel about this all

[mstang67]

Originally Posted by Highbury

I'm sorry if you have no internet and live in the boonies, but cutting edge PC gaming is not something you should be doing, fair or not. Just like you should not be buying a Ferrari to drive on them dirt roads.

You know, I lived in remote islands in Alaska for years when I was younger while my father worked his ass off. We didn't have internet. Sometimes we had to drive a mile and a half to use a satellite phone because one place we lived at didn't have phones. There are a lot of hard working people living in places like these, and according to your statement they shouldn't be able to use new games? Do they not deserve it? Their kids shouldn't be able to enjoy games? Maybe I'm reading too much into it but that was really a jackass statement. If SH5 comes with this BS I won't buy it, which is too bad because I was really excited for it. I won't support a company that says "screw our fans" like that. Stupid crap like this just makes people more desperate and creates more pirates and cracks and crap like that. I don't support them, but can definitely see where this will lead to more of it. Bad move Ubi

[martes86]

I'm telling you, if there's a cracker interested enough with plenty of spare time, SH5 will be cracked. I like to have contacts around, and I'm being told that nowadays, games are being cracked even before they're released, about 99% of protected games can be cracked (as opposed to "will actually be cracked"). Even Steam was cracked. I didn't believe it myself until I saw live proof of it (I ain't telling you how to make it, though ).

Interest on the subject in question (passion for it, the will to archieve the goal), and spare time. With these 2, ALMOST ANYTHING can be cracked. And note I'm not justifying anything on piracy, I'm just telling you what the reality is, just like it's also reality that the modern world is becoming a worse place because of the financial crisis.

Cheers.

True.. Seeing such desperate moves from UBI makes difficult to hold a grip on yourself and try not to spit something nasty into the ocean.. Not to mention all of the recent news about game make-up that already gave hard times to spectate it with impotent calmness. Maybe we shouldn;t be so sceptic, cuz maybe more awfull news going to follow soon ?.. Sad, just sad..

[Axlwolf]

I think this is the end for me
In this last years,i have become deeply concerned about all those DRM in various game.
I think this trend will only get worse,and really end my gaming days.
I can say that i own only ORIGINAL copy of game.
My player career started in the 1998,Unreal the first game i bought,i REALLY miss those days.
I purchased a complete game.

-Now if i buy a game i NEED to install some patch because the game has heavy fault from the beginning.

-I NEED to download some DLC because some mods use it.This trend started for me with Fallout 3,it's not the end of the world but... i miss some mod.It's the only game i own with some kind of online arrassement,the infamous Windows Live,and i can say i buyed it only when i understood i can have an OFFLINE account.

-I NEED to authenticate online my install (I can accept to go online...ONE time)

Like many other i have two rigs,one for the net,and one for games.
But my connection it's not stable,and i live in a big city,and even if i asked many times at my ISP what is happening when i have some unexplainable down time or heavy slow down,they never explain anything.
I've been in this situation for many years.
Now,many said that this is the 21 century,but i can say that here,where i live,it's NOT YET the 2010,regarding technology.
It could be true in some big country like the U.S.A. where it seems that technology and innovation are easy to get,but where i live(i am from europe)it's NOT that easy.
I've waited almost two years for my ADSL .
And one time i've lost TOTALLY my connection and phone for two months because they decided that it whas too cheap for them and simply they shut down the service,without any explanation!!!
And like me there are several others people in all my country in the same condition.

I can't stand to be in the hand of others to play my game.
I purchase a product to enjoy it,not to literally eat my liver in rage because something i can't control does not work.

I Buyed and loved Silent Hunter 3

I Buyed Silent Hunter 4 because,despite some bad comment on the net i was sure this glorious community would have made the game better.And i even buyed the addon U-Boat mission.I have to say a big "THANK YOU" to the many modders in this community.

And many other game from other publisher...i would really liked to buy,but...

Now...

Well,it was fun till it lasted.

Like many other i have two option

1)-Go ahead and throw my hard earned money in what it seems a big gaming nuisance.

2)-Simply move to other thing...

I've loved the community here,and even if i don't post often,i check it every day,and i will continue to do so.
Till the end!
Good luck everyone.

[hyperion2206]

Well now that Ubisoft has confirmed that you need to be connected to the internet while playing and that all my save games are stored online, they have lost a customer.

I was really looking forward to play that game but I won't let Ubisoft tell me how to play a game. Besides: You can't play your game you paid a lot of bucks for if your internet connection brakes down? WTF!

What's next? Mercedes or GM will put GPS trackers i your car and won't allow you to drive if you don't have a connection to a satelite?

[tiger shark]

Well I was monitoring the situation on this forum for i long time,and i haven't posted any complaints about SHV because I was hoping for the best,but know i really have to say this:
I will never ever ever ever buy a game or anything with DRM,this is terrible mistake for ubi,and I just hope that they will wake up on time!
this really makes me mad,very mad....

[MRV]

The most funny thing is that this will damatically decrease the number of sold copies of SH5 and probably make UBI cancel the franchise because they think no one wants u boat sims anymore....

What's next? Mercedes or GM will put GPS trackers i your car and won't allow you to drive if you don't have a connection to a satelite?

thats good *lol* I'm waiting for support accounts for cars you can access with the car radio. It starts up every time you start the engine and checks if there are chinese 3rd-party spare parts built in....


Here is my confession: MY legally bought copy of SH5 will be NO CD CRACKED! I also would suggest that in case SH5 really comes with such a system the community should openly distribute such cracks as an act of protest.

Why? because I want to make sure I still can play a game in case ubisoft declares bankrupticy and shuts down its servers, which is soon going to happen if they go on like this....

[irish1958]

I will not purchase a game with these restrictions, no matter how good, period.
If or when the game becomes available without them, I will reconsider.

[Boris]

I love how they euphemistically package a drakonian and annoying DRM as "our online service"... as if it were something special they're doing for us.