The gawd-almighty merged DRM in Silent Hunter V thread - Page 18

01-27-10, 03:37 AM

So in my poor opinion I think that DRM is just creating more troubles for users who actually bought it than it gives any benefits.. It's like you never bought a game but more like renting the game. Question is Ubi can also make registration account expirable with any let's say patch released. So UBI might pull the strings on you despite that you payed for the very first version, later you might be asked to repay for patches or addons released. Finally you can't say I have all this game in my PC! No because your arms is tight with the Internet connection, no internet no game ? Nah.. I'm not supporting this idea in any way. Sue me if you don't like my opinion, it;s just the way I see it.

Boris · 01-27-10, 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sober

If everyone bought the game we wouldnt be in this mess .

Yes, but never in the history of PC gaming has this ever been the case. So they're trying to revert to a state that never was.

Rosencrantz · 01-27-10, 03:42 AM

Ok, to me the question is simple: Buy or not to buy. With DRM it'll be very likely not to buy. No matter if I have decent connetion, I just don't like the idea that a legitimate customer need to prove his legitimacy 24/7 just because the company is crying after money lost to the piracy.

As long as I don't pirate - Why should I care?

As long as I buy my product - Why should I fight the company's war?

As long as I don't steal - Why should I be punished?

So simple is that...

Greetings,
-RC-

Alienfresser · 01-27-10, 03:47 AM

[QUOTE=Highbury;1247568]This looks so much like the Rise of Flight forum before release. Now hardly anyone talks about the DRM, just the game. Thousands happily play it and if it was not a business success then Ubi would not be following it (not that they are directly mimicking neoqb, but you can bet they would know if it was a failure).
QUOTE]

Have to disagree with you. Stopped, and many other players too, playing RoF because of constant errors with the server-connection. Missions don't get saved, MP dropping, server not reachable and so on. Or why do you think they plan to remove the always-on "feature" from the game.

They simply making the same mistake as neoqd.

sk065 · 01-27-10, 03:48 AM

My connection is crappy I cant even stream youtube videos during peak times. There ie absolutley nothing i can do about this other than move to the city. On top of that I use a laptop for internet and a gaming rig not connected to the net to play games.

So its not about principle for me - its about not being able to play this way. Therefore, I cant purchace SH5.

I also see it promiting piracy - not hindering it.

01-27-10, 03:52 AM

In short Ubisoft as games dev company of course wants to protects their products and adds themsleves into war against piracy and all the evil it costs to them and that's fine and commendable. It's just they just don't realize yet, they have chosen wrong weapons for that. Despite good wishes some users will be pushed to behave illegaly with these kind of restrictions..

DaWu · 01-27-10, 04:41 AM

thats it 4 me too. I really looked forward to it but this has become something personal now. I am not let me get treated like a pirate when I buy a legit copy. I am buying games for twenty years now and this is the most idiotic idea I heard of so far. even though my computer is connected 24/7 and my con is very strong I wont buy it and accept this drm. just because I dont accept the way ubi thinks they can treat their customers.

this protection will be passed by in a hurry and with so many other great games coming out this spring I can easily put sh to the side.

John W. Hamm · 01-27-10, 04:48 AM

No idea if i will get put in the brig for this or not but...I found this @ UBI.com

Barra1 · 01-27-10, 04:54 AM

the way I see it is that the price of piracy is factored into the price of the software. It is a garbage argument to say piracy cost's us this much blah, blah, blah. Sorry Ubi but the way I see it is if we are to continue to put up with this sort of rot then surely this will be the cheapest Silent Hunter ever as the community will no longer have to foot the bill for piracy. "Sorry what was that? You were just going to add it to the bottom line of your profits were you?"

rea00cy · 01-27-10, 07:17 AM

To me, this is the last nail in the coffin for SH5...

and remember.... the hate you'll take is = to the hate you give....

Danji · 01-27-10, 07:33 AM

i'm not sure if this joke exist in english too. but i'll try to translate a romanian joke. There once was a fox. The fox suddenly felt like eating pancakes, but it (in romanian it's "she" ) had no frying pan. So she went to the bear to ask him for a frying pan. On her way to him ( the bear is considered male so i'll reffer to it as "him" ) she thought : "what if the bear will ask me for some pancakes as thanx for borrowing me the pan ?" . Half way there she though " what if he will take advantage of his size and place in the forest and demand half my pancakes? " . Almost reaching the bear's house she thought "what if he'll take half my pancakes and charge me for the pan too?". Finally reaching the bear's house, she rang the bell, the bear answered, and as soon as the bear opened the door she madly told the bear : " F you and your stupid pan, i don't even want it anymore! ".

Sorry if this seems like trolling or spamming or offtopic.

simsurfer · 01-27-10, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jazman

If the reviews of SH5 are good, most of you will come crawling back like a beaten dog.

As for me, the Pacific awaits: Silent Hunter 4, and War in the Pacific.

How wrong you are, in my case anyway.

Ryokosman · 01-27-10, 07:43 AM

Well crud. What a bummer to read the OP article. We're building a new house off the beaten path and there will probably not be high speed there for decades.. Guess I'll just have to wait and see what the cracker crowd comes up with so I can play.

vigilante · 01-27-10, 07:45 AM

Wel, I'm a bit ashamed SH5 it's a product made in my country, but I guess the decision of using DRM came from France headquarters.
At this point, SH5 have tons of requirements and offer a pretty lousy product in exchange.

- SH5 ask for high-end hardware
- SH5 offer just one sub type and their war ends in 1943
- SH5 need a powerful and stable Internet connection to run
- SH5 wants my details when I pay them for the product, now they want my game saves. Probably they will spy further.

That's too much for a niche game. It doesn't worth it.

01-27-10, 07:55 AM

My main concern is what happens down the road when they decide to pull the plug on said authentication server either through a will of selling us some new product or by UBi going out of bussiness.

And blaming this move on piracy is outright daft. Its to simplify the situation far to much.

01-27-10, 03:47 AM	#259
Alienfresser Watch Join Date: May 2005 Location: Irgendwo Posts: 18 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	[QUOTE=Highbury;1247568]This looks so much like the Rise of Flight forum before release. Now hardly anyone talks about the DRM, just the game. Thousands happily play it and if it was not a business success then Ubi would not be following it (not that they are directly mimicking neoqb, but you can bet they would know if it was a failure). QUOTE] Have to disagree with you. Stopped, and many other players too, playing RoF because of constant errors with the server-connection. Missions don't get saved, MP dropping, server not reachable and so on. Or why do you think they plan to remove the always-on "feature" from the game. They simply making the same mistake as neoqd. __________________ I sieg nix, i soag nix und i hoer nix. Basta

01-27-10, 04:48 AM	#263
John W. Hamm Watch Officer Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Timbuktoo Posts: 331 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	No idea if i will get put in the brig for this or not but...I found this @ UBI.com __________________ Elvis has left the building

01-27-10, 07:33 AM	#266
Danji Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Bucharest, Romania Posts: 8 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	i'm not sure if this joke exist in english too. but i'll try to translate a romanian joke. There once was a fox. The fox suddenly felt like eating pancakes, but it (in romanian it's "she" ) had no frying pan. So she went to the bear to ask him for a frying pan. On her way to him ( the bear is considered male so i'll reffer to it as "him" ) she thought : "what if the bear will ask me for some pancakes as thanx for borrowing me the pan ?" . Half way there she though " what if he will take advantage of his size and place in the forest and demand half my pancakes? " . Almost reaching the bear's house she thought "what if he'll take half my pancakes and charge me for the pan too?". Finally reaching the bear's house, she rang the bell, the bear answered, and as soon as the bear opened the door she madly told the bear : " F you and your stupid pan, i don't even want it anymore! ". Sorry if this seems like trolling or spamming or offtopic. __________________ pedobear wants lolis

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01-27-10, 03:37 AM	#256
zulus Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	So in my poor opinion I think that DRM is just creating more troubles for users who actually bought it than it gives any benefits.. It's like you never bought a game but more like renting the game. Question is Ubi can also make registration account expirable with any let's say patch released. So UBI might pull the strings on you despite that you payed for the very first version, later you might be asked to repay for patches or addons released. Finally you can't say I have all this game in my PC! No because your arms is tight with the Internet connection, no internet no game ? Nah.. I'm not supporting this idea in any way. Sue me if you don't like my opinion, it;s just the way I see it.

01-27-10, 03:42 AM	#258
Rosencrantz Grey Wolf Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Finland Posts: 758 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	Ok, to me the question is simple: Buy or not to buy. With DRM it'll be very likely not to buy. No matter if I have decent connetion, I just don't like the idea that a legitimate customer need to prove his legitimacy 24/7 just because the company is crying after money lost to the piracy. As long as I don't pirate - Why should I care? As long as I buy my product - Why should I fight the company's war? As long as I don't steal - Why should I be punished? So simple is that... Greetings, -RC-

01-27-10, 03:48 AM	#260
sk065 Bosun Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 62 Downloads: 30 Uploads: 0	My connection is crappy I cant even stream youtube videos during peak times. There ie absolutley nothing i can do about this other than move to the city. On top of that I use a laptop for internet and a gaming rig not connected to the net to play games. So its not about principle for me - its about not being able to play this way. Therefore, I cant purchace SH5. I also see it promiting piracy - not hindering it.

01-27-10, 03:52 AM	#261
zulus Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	In short Ubisoft as games dev company of course wants to protects their products and adds themsleves into war against piracy and all the evil it costs to them and that's fine and commendable. It's just they just don't realize yet, they have chosen wrong weapons for that. Despite good wishes some users will be pushed to behave illegaly with these kind of restrictions..

01-27-10, 04:41 AM	#262
DaWu Nub Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 4 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	thats it 4 me too. I really looked forward to it but this has become something personal now. I am not let me get treated like a pirate when I buy a legit copy. I am buying games for twenty years now and this is the most idiotic idea I heard of so far. even though my computer is connected 24/7 and my con is very strong I wont buy it and accept this drm. just because I dont accept the way ubi thinks they can treat their customers. this protection will be passed by in a hurry and with so many other great games coming out this spring I can easily put sh to the side.

01-27-10, 04:54 AM	#264
Barra1 Swabbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	the way I see it is that the price of piracy is factored into the price of the software. It is a garbage argument to say piracy cost's us this much blah, blah, blah. Sorry Ubi but the way I see it is if we are to continue to put up with this sort of rot then surely this will be the cheapest Silent Hunter ever as the community will no longer have to foot the bill for piracy. "Sorry what was that? You were just going to add it to the bottom line of your profits were you?"

01-27-10, 07:17 AM	#265
rea00cy Loader Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central FL Posts: 88 Downloads: 337 Uploads: 0	To me, this is the last nail in the coffin for SH5... and remember.... the hate you'll take is = to the hate you give....

01-27-10, 07:43 AM	#268
Ryokosman Swabbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: AR Posts: 5 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	Well crud. What a bummer to read the OP article. We're building a new house off the beaten path and there will probably not be high speed there for decades.. Guess I'll just have to wait and see what the cracker crowd comes up with so I can play.

01-27-10, 07:45 AM	#269
vigilante Watch Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Constantza / Romania Posts: 23 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Wel, I'm a bit ashamed SH5 it's a product made in my country, but I guess the decision of using DRM came from France headquarters. At this point, SH5 have tons of requirements and offer a pretty lousy product in exchange. - SH5 ask for high-end hardware - SH5 offer just one sub type and their war ends in 1943 - SH5 need a powerful and stable Internet connection to run - SH5 wants my details when I pay them for the product, now they want my game saves. Probably they will spy further. That's too much for a niche game. It doesn't worth it.

01-27-10, 07:55 AM	#270
Jotte Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	My main concern is what happens down the road when they decide to pull the plug on said authentication server either through a will of selling us some new product or by UBi going out of bussiness. And blaming this move on piracy is outright daft. Its to simplify the situation far to much.