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Old 01-26-10, 09:55 PM   #31
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Question/ what if i BUY the Disk, read the eula, and decide i do not agree?
do i get meh cash back?
In Europe? Most probably.. In the US? That would depend on how loud you can yell at the Customer Service Rep.
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Old 01-26-10, 11:03 PM   #32
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Question/ what if i BUY the Disk, read the eula, and decide i do not agree?
do i get meh cash back?
Yes, in Europe you will by law.

However, I read an account of someone trying to do just this. They had
a very, very hard time doing it. The company whose EULA they did not
agree with claimed that he has clicked 'accept' (he had not) and they
refused a refund until after a long string of e-mails and a video of him
clicking 'Do not accept'.
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Old 01-26-10, 11:29 PM   #33
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If this DRM scheme interferes with the modding of the game, then Ubi has just slit the throat of the SH series.
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Old 01-26-10, 11:56 PM   #34
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The DRM wont affect me , i just wont buy SH5 .
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Old 01-27-10, 12:05 AM   #35
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If this DRM scheme interferes with the modding of the game, then Ubi has just slit the throat of the SH series.
I'll have to agree here, in spite of not being a heavy mod user.

Subsim modders fix Ubisoft mistakes and oversights much better than Ubisoft does.
Actualy, experience shows that there isn't much that Ubisoft does fix, or finish, after release.
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Old 01-27-10, 03:13 AM   #36
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If this DRM scheme interferes with the modding of the game, then Ubi has just slit the throat of the SH series.
Does anyone have real experience with DRM to answer this question? It's certainly one of the first q's I thought of. I mean, yeah, the devs have stated that SH5 will be more moddable than SH3...but that means nothing if Ubisoft's DRM negates it all.
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Old 01-27-10, 03:31 AM   #37
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Does anyone have real experience with DRM to answer this question? It's certainly one of the first q's I thought of. I mean, yeah, the devs have stated that SH5 will be more moddable than SH3...but that means nothing if Ubisoft's DRM negates it all.
Well it won't completely kill modding unless they put something in to explicitly stop it. But it does have the potential to be a hell of an annoyance, just as it is in Empire Total Wat for example. Game patches are downloaded automatically overwriting any mods you may have and messing up the file structure.
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Old 01-27-10, 03:33 AM   #38
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Thus JSGME may be useless?
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Old 01-27-10, 03:35 AM   #39
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Does anyone have real experience with DRM to answer this question? It's certainly one of the first q's I thought of. I mean, yeah, the devs have stated that SH5 will be more moddable than SH3...but that means nothing if Ubisoft's DRM negates it all.
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Old 01-27-10, 03:55 AM   #40
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if this DRM will afect or make the modding or mod install too compliated, then i wont buy the game because the modding is the key of making the Silent hunter a "real u boat war simulator" without mods and proper patches the game is piece of crap
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Old 01-27-10, 04:03 AM   #41
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Well it won't completely kill modding unless they put something in to explicitly stop it. But it does have the potential to be a hell of an annoyance, just as it is in Empire Total Wat for example. Game patches are downloaded automatically overwriting any mods you may have and messing up the file structure.

Empire Total War uses Steam, which allow you to play offline. The Internet connection is needed only to download the latest patch and keep your game up to date.
You can start an Empire game whenever you want offline.

To play SH5 on the contrary, being online is mandatory.

Any chance that SH5 will work through Steam? That would be an alternative to DRM isn't it?
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Old 01-27-10, 04:17 AM   #42
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If this DRM scheme interferes with the modding of the game, then Ubi has just slit the throat of the SH series.
The intention is to eliminate any alternative to buying a new game. Without mods, the interest of re-playing the stock versions will decline much quicker so people will look toward a new sequel.
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Old 01-27-10, 04:44 AM   #43
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Why is Ubisoft forcing their loyal customers to sign up for a Ubisoft account when they don't want to give their private data and only play single player games?
We hope that customers will feel as we do, that signing up for an account will offer them exceptional gameplay and services that are not available otherwise.
lol...its so unbelievable to sell this "invention" as a present from heaven.

"...are not available otherwise" ...understand. handcuffs.

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Old 01-27-10, 04:55 AM   #44
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From what I have read we may be lucky. If you read the escapist article it says the first game to have this on it is settlers 7 ( a game i was planning on buying) which is released after SH is.
Here hoping he is right
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Old 01-27-10, 07:39 AM   #45
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From what I have read we may be lucky. If you read the escapist article it says the first game to have this on it is settlers 7 ( a game i was planning on buying) which is released after SH is.
Here hoping he is right
Bear in mind, they can add this later in a patch.
They did this to Company of Heroes. First release was a simple install and code, you didn't even need the disk in the drive to play. 2 or 3 patches later.. hey guys, here are a bunch of fixes to our broken game.. oh and you now need to be online to play and need a Relik account to do so.
You don't want that? Oh, then no bug fixes for you!

I still play the original and enjoy it very much, I'd rather suffer the bugs than open yet another pointless account/password just so I can play against my own PC!
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