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HundertzehnGustav · 01-26-10, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteamWake

Wow Neal even you are starting to sound a little negative now.

and I see neal as an extremely Cool Man with nerves of f'n Battleship Steel.
His post makes me wonder too.

Neal, i am ranting, in your Virtual Saloon that Suibsim is, so please let me offer you a beer, as i cannot dso more for you than tell you that i appreciate the fact thet YOU enable ME to Voice my Opinion.

*beer*

Back to the Question...
I do not know. and little do i care. I am dissapointed, and have no more interest in the Future of the Silent hunter series. >maybe it ll come back in a few years.
Gimme GWX or LSHIII...

Gilbou · 01-26-10, 06:08 PM

I would have bought the game even with only one sub (hoping that a following expansion pack would add the type IX and perhaps 1/2 years to go until 1943).

I'm going back to SH3+GWX which I'll combine with my current SH4.
I will wait for a DRM-free version, if it ever happens (when the game is out since a long time, having it protected is of no use.. So I hope they will remove the DRM and online-stuff with the last patch for example).

Onkel Neal · 01-26-10, 06:56 PM

Wow, lot's of great posts, I'm gonna give that new multi-quote feature a stress test here

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Originally Posted by SteamWake

Wow Neal even you are starting to sound a little negative now.

Haha, well, I'm not happy about everything, either. I just try to keep an open mind until I actually play the game. Still, I am wondering if this trend of unflattering surprises will continue.

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Originally Posted by codmander

Wow

glad to see you question sh5 somewhat Neil guess that boycott post waS over the top

but what the heck everytime man ,,get excited than poof bad news sick of that HEY UBI just give us a great sim period you started one with sh3 now finish it

Yeah, well, we will always have SH3. If SH5 rocks our world, we win. If it tanks, we can hope Ubisoft Romania will design the next edition of Silent Hunter to be a continuation of the traditional U-boat sim.

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Originally Posted by Letum

Dangerdeep, Subwolves, the restart of GWX4, 1C making a new subsim,
Subsim.com commissioning the first VIIC build since the '40s.

Don't I wish!

Quote:

Originally Posted by oscar19681

Yes he does! Now that is starting to scare me when even uncle neal is starting to talk like this! Please stop scaring me or i will dive to 250 meters!

Steady, man. Those depth charges are not as close as they sound. Now, help me put out this electrical fire!

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Originally Posted by Letum

You bet it is!
I would give you a few screenshots, but I don't know if that would be OK
with the boss.
I'm putting lots of my spare time into it and So is the lead programmer
Peter, even tho he is busy with his professional legal work.

Hey, isn't it time for us to talk? I think a Subsim preview of Subwolves is LONG overdue

Quote:

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

and I see neal as an extremely Cool Man with nerves of f'n Battleship Steel.
His post makes me wonder too.

Neal, i am ranting, in your Virtual Saloon that Suibsim is, so please let me offer you a beer, as i cannot dso more for you than tell you that i appreciate the fact thet YOU enable ME to Voice my Opinion.

*beer*

Back to the Question...
I do not know. and little do i care. I am dissapointed, and have no more interest in the Future of the Silent hunter series. >maybe it ll come back in a few years.
Gimme GWX or LSHIII...

Thanks for the beer, mate, and the wildness of these pre-release discussions is traditonal. If you remember before SH2, it was totally crazy!

HundertzehnGustav · 01-26-10, 07:09 PM

Neal, i only came aboard after SHIII...
This place, as a Online Lounge to chill out on, speak aboutt my Sub simming dreams, is a difficult place atm, but none the less appreciated.

Letum · 01-26-10, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Hey, isn't it time for us to talk? I think a Subsim preview of Subwolves is LONG overdue

haha!
Not my call, but PM sent.

01-26-10, 07:45 PM

So what happens down the pipe if UBISoft is sold?

One would think that any new owners would also own the rights to UBISoft's stable but would not stand to generate any income from the SH5 server without resorting to new fees. It's unlikely that there would be a continued requirement to support a "legacy" product.

UBISoft states that they will issue some sort of patch but if sold they might not have the legal right to do so as the game(s) may no longer belong to them.

I think this, more than any transient connection problems, represents the biggest issue with the always must be on-line DRM.

01-26-10, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer

So what happens down the pipe if UBISoft is sold?

or the game itself is discontinued or sold to another developer

the answer is:

congradulations, you are SOL

HundertzehnGustav · 01-26-10, 07:51 PM

NO GUYS...

read the website for the online platform

they promise to let you play offline.

AVGWarhawk · 01-26-10, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HundertzehnGustav

NO GUYS...

read the website for the online platform

they promise to let you play offline.

No doubt it will be playable off line. Some games check for updates then load. Others don't.

bigboywooly · 01-26-10, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

No doubt it will be playable off line. Some games check for updates then load. Others don't.

From Seeadlers link

Quote:

Is there an "off-line" option?
No. The added services to the game (unlimited installs, online storage of saved games and the fact that you don’t need the game disc to play) require you to have an online connection while playing the game

GoldenRivet · 01-26-10, 08:33 PM

Also from the Q&A

What if Ubisoft decides not run these online services in the future? Will my game stop working?

Ubisoft is committed to being a forerunner in providing new exciting online service. If any service is stopped, we will create a patch for the game so that the core game play will not be affected.

XLjedi · 01-26-10, 08:40 PM

What's next?

I cut the cost of my planned PC upgrade in half and buy an XBOX 360.
Continue learning C# and XNA and build my own damn sub game. BTW, anyone got any VIIC Milkshape models laying around?

01-26-10, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

Also from the Q&A

What if Ubisoft decides not run these online services in the future? Will my game stop working?

Ubisoft is committed to being a forerunner in providing new exciting online service. If any service is stopped, we will create a patch for the game so that the core game play will not be affected.

This is disingenuous at best and besides what else are they supposed to say. If UBISoft is sold down the road they will no longer own the game and so any promises of a magic patch are not worth the electrons it took to bring them to your screen.

Have a look at other game franchises where the original publishers have changed hands. Inevitably what happens is a "new" version is cranked out aimed at a new audiance and the legacy owners are hung out to dry.

Supporting the previous owner's software makes no business sense but remarketing a new and shiny version with no backwards compatibility will still find a market if the market was there in the first place. A couple of examples even though DRM didn't figure with any of them:

TOAW - COW vs. TOAW 3
Harpoon 3 vs. Harpoon ANW
Legion Gold vs. Matrix Legion Gold

And there's more. If this represents the future of PC gaming I think I'm going back to chess.

Chef · 01-26-10, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanC

... Silent Hunter 5 looked so sweet and sexy, untill we noticed the adam's apple.

Is that 5 'o'clock shadow?

Activision killed Call of Duty for the PC this way. The new game won't allow independent servers which means no mods and no clans. You get thrown into a server with a bunch of strangers where the game is hosted by another person. If he leaves, the game ends and you all get thrown into another anonymous server of strangers. Welcome to the brave new world ruled by consoles. The PC game, especially the PC sim is a dying breed.

Torplexed · 01-26-10, 10:14 PM

Wow. I'm late to the party (or funeral depending on your POV) and I've been absorbing it all. I must say I'm saddened too at the direction the industry is going in. I guess all the glorious eye candy is coming at the price of the game only ephemerally being yours...as long as they support it. Frankly, I worry if graphic applications will start going down this road too in the future.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randomizer

And there's more. If this represents the future of PC gaming I think I'm going back to chess.

I may go back to my old cardboard & counters wargames.

01-26-10, 07:09 PM	#49
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	Neal, i only came aboard after SHIII... This place, as a Online Lounge to chill out on, speak aboutt my Sub simming dreams, is a difficult place atm, but none the less appreciated. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-26-10, 07:51 PM	#53
HundertzehnGustav Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lux, betw. G, B and F Posts: 1,898 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	NO GUYS... read the website for the online platform they promise to let you play offline. __________________ In conclusion: SH3 is the shizzle, yo. -Frau Kaleun Another negative about using your deck gun is that you are definately DETECTED, which has long term effects on your relationship with aircraft. -snestorm

01-26-10, 08:33 PM	#56
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	Also from the Q&A What if Ubisoft decides not run these online services in the future? Will my game stop working? Ubisoft is committed to being a forerunner in providing new exciting online service. If any service is stopped, we will create a patch for the game so that the core game play will not be affected. __________________

01-26-10, 08:40 PM	#57
XLjedi Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 1,243 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 8	What's next? I cut the cost of my planned PC upgrade in half and buy an XBOX 360. Continue learning C# and XNA and build my own damn sub game. BTW, anyone got any VIIC Milkshape models laying around? __________________

01-26-10, 06:08 PM	#47
Gilbou Chief Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: France Posts: 313 Downloads: 152 Uploads: 0	I would have bought the game even with only one sub (hoping that a following expansion pack would add the type IX and perhaps 1/2 years to go until 1943). I'm going back to SH3+GWX which I'll combine with my current SH4. I will wait for a DRM-free version, if it ever happens (when the game is out since a long time, having it protected is of no use.. So I hope they will remove the DRM and online-stuff with the last patch for example).

01-26-10, 07:45 PM	#51
Randomizer Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	So what happens down the pipe if UBISoft is sold? One would think that any new owners would also own the rights to UBISoft's stable but would not stand to generate any income from the SH5 server without resorting to new fees. It's unlikely that there would be a continued requirement to support a "legacy" product. UBISoft states that they will issue some sort of patch but if sold they might not have the legal right to do so as the game(s) may no longer belong to them. I think this, more than any transient connection problems, represents the biggest issue with the always must be on-line DRM.