Some escorts more 'easy' than others?

Obltn Strand · 01-26-10, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Iranon

generally, bigger means less dangerous.

Armed trawlers are awkward. Their underwater shape is a pain for both contact and magnetic detonators and they pack enough firepower to make a surface battle costly; this should usually be avoided but it's possible (if you have to take them out in close combat, I recommend disarming them with heavy flak).
They aren't as good at detecting you as true military vessels, and the low speed of most means you can simply outrun them if you don't want to play.

Very odd. To me armed trawlers are easy prey with deck gun. Just keep bow towards the enemy and wo shouting ranges. Calm weather also helps.
I start pounding them at 4000m and sometimes score two or three hits before it even spots me. Less than than 2000m away it begins to turn revealing larger target profile. Very bad choise for poor trawler.

I have managed to sink several of them with torpedo too with both impact and magnetic detonators although I don't consider it to be worth one. Maybe aft tube if firing position allows.

Iranon · 01-27-10, 04:41 AM

Oh, I don't question that you will win gun fights against trawlers.
The question is whether it's worth it. Gun battles carry some risk despite a hypercompetent WO's range estimates (which I don't use) and surprising deck gun power at long range (DD sunk immediately after 2nd hit? Eek!); they can occasionally hit from several km away.
Playing DiD and trying my best to get my crew and boat back in perfect condition, I dislike unnecessary risks... things go pear-shaped on their own accord often enough.

I can kill armed trawlers with 1 torpedo the vast majority of times, but I don't have the near-perfect success rate I do against corvettes and destroyers.
Since the small fry is hardly worth an eel in the first place, this is annoying.

Obltn Strand · 01-27-10, 02:31 PM

I too stopped surface attacks against armed trawlers and flower corvettes. Too easy prey.

Maybe wo without laser rangefinder makes surface battles more challenging. I like to take risks and it's rare occasion if I return to port with full hull integrity.

Does anyone know what kind of rangefinder WO used real in world?

BulSoldier · 01-28-10, 08:13 AM

it is possible to destroy DDs or DEs with one two shots of the deck gun.I myself (IRC) sunk town class destroyer with 1-2 hits.Then it was rocked with few explosions and sunk.Though prolonged surface engagements are definetly unhealthy.

Jimbuna · 01-29-10, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BulSoldier

it is possible to destroy DDs or DEs with one two shots of the deck gun.I myself (IRC) sunk town class destroyer with 1-2 hits.Then it was rocked with few explosions and sunk.Though prolonged surface engagements are definetly unhealthy.

Sounds like you've been most fortunate and caused a magazine explosion

floundericiousWA · 01-29-10, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbuna

Sounds like you've been most fortunate and caused a magazine explosion

Can you set off torpedoes? That would blow a DD clean in half!!!

Jimbuna · 01-29-10, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

Can you set off torpedoes? That would blow a DD clean in half!!!

Not as far as I am aware....I don't think they were given damage zone files

floundericiousWA · 01-29-10, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Obltn Strand

I too stopped surface attacks against armed trawlers and flower corvettes. Too easy prey.

Maybe wo without laser rangefinder makes surface battles more challenging. I like to take risks and it's rare occasion if I return to port with full hull integrity.

Does anyone know what kind of rangefinder WO used real in world?

Identification manual and scale markings in the UZO? If you have to do that trigonometry in your head often enough, it becomes second nature.

KL-alfman · 01-29-10, 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

Identification manual and scale markings in the UZO? If you have to do that trigonometry in your head often enough, it becomes second nature.

I envy you for your abilities!

floundericiousWA · 01-29-10, 04:50 PM

lol

not me, man, not me! I'm math-enabled, but practice and theory are different!!!

frau kaleun · 01-29-10, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by floundericiousWA

not me, man, not me! I'm math-enabled, but practice and theory are different!!!

In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, however, there is!

01-28-10, 08:13 AM	#4
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	it is possible to destroy DDs or DEs with one two shots of the deck gun.I myself (IRC) sunk town class destroyer with 1-2 hits.Then it was rocked with few explosions and sunk.Though prolonged surface engagements are definetly unhealthy. __________________ By the hour !

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floundericiousWA Medic Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 164 Downloads: 7 Uploads: 0	lol not me, man, not me! I'm math-enabled, but practice and theory are different!!! __________________ C.O. - USS Tambor "Defending that which is sincerely good and perfectly divine; Triumphant over death, and chance, and time..."

01-27-10, 04:41 AM	#2
Iranon Loader Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 89 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Oh, I don't question that you will win gun fights against trawlers. The question is whether it's worth it. Gun battles carry some risk despite a hypercompetent WO's range estimates (which I don't use) and surprising deck gun power at long range (DD sunk immediately after 2nd hit? Eek!); they can occasionally hit from several km away. Playing DiD and trying my best to get my crew and boat back in perfect condition, I dislike unnecessary risks... things go pear-shaped on their own accord often enough. I can kill armed trawlers with 1 torpedo the vast majority of times, but I don't have the near-perfect success rate I do against corvettes and destroyers. Since the small fry is hardly worth an eel in the first place, this is annoying.

01-27-10, 02:31 PM	#3
Obltn Strand Commodore Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Helsinki, Finland Posts: 614 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 0	I too stopped surface attacks against armed trawlers and flower corvettes. Too easy prey. Maybe wo without laser rangefinder makes surface battles more challenging. I like to take risks and it's rare occasion if I return to port with full hull integrity. Does anyone know what kind of rangefinder WO used real in world?