Dangerous Waters and Virtual Box

goldorak · 12-30-09, 11:06 AM

Well for those that might be interested : Dangerous Waters runs very well on XP in Virtualbox with 3d acceleration enabled. The only problem that still is not resolved is the gamma (too dark although you can still see the different stations) and most importantly some screens disappear if you select specific options, but they come back we those options are unselected. These problems are few so I hope the guys working on the 3d component of Virtualbox will have it fixed sooner rather than later.
Oh and by the way the audio works 100%.
All this for what you may ask ? Well if you're considering going all the way to linux and don't want to renounce to your daily drug of DW, Virtualbox is your only friendly alternative seeing that Wine still has audio not working so the game on Wine is perfectly useless. One less stone on the path to linux.

Pisces · 12-30-09, 12:16 PM

There is a gamma setting in the ini file. Did you change that?

goldorak · 12-30-09, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pisces

There is a gamma setting in the ini file. Did you change that?

Yes, I tried setting a specific value in the .ini file but the "graphic drivers" don't take it into account. We have to wait until the driver is updated to take into account the gamma setting.

kgsuarez · 01-04-10, 06:38 AM

Thank you for your post, goldorak. I am glad to hear that DW is kind of working under Linux now.

I haven't been able to get VirtualBox running yet. I am stuck in dependency hell right now. Slackware Linux gives you a pretty bare-bones system, requiring you to hunt down all the dependencies when installing something as complex as VirtualBox.

I am expecting a new computer any day now though. I ordered a laptop from Dell. I am planning to install Ubuntu on it, and then perhaps I'll have an easier time getting VirtualBox running on that.

Have you tried running DW through VMWare by any chance?

goldorak · 01-04-10, 07:27 AM

No I don't have VMware its too much of a bloated software compared to Virtualbox. The thing is you can either run DW under wine or in Virtualbox.
In the first case you'll get no sound because that part of the Microsoft API hasn't been completely replicated in wine. So the game is basically useless even though graphically its ok.
Now to run the game in virtualbox you have got to install beforehand XP. So its basically DW runs on XP that runs in Virtualbox that runs on linux.
In this case the audio is ok but the graphics still has problems (for instance in the options menu you can see the little 3d screen but the different options are invisibile). Little problems like that.
So in the end no solution yet for running DW 100% problem free under linux but we are getting there.

kgsuarez · 01-04-10, 11:44 AM

I have tried running DW with wine and I am familiar with the sound issues. I certainly hope that the dev team can come up with a solution one of these days, as a simple layer of emulation provided by wine is preferable to running an entire virtual machine. My hardware is perpetually outdated and underpowered; Virtualization essentially murders my systems' performance.

I'm mostly interested in running a virtual machine to play around with different Linux and BSD distributions. However, I am definitely curious about getting my games running on my Linux laptop. The only problem in all of this for me is that I do not have a copy of Windows XP to use with VirtualBox or VMWare. The only copy of it that I have is the one on my desktop. And I do not have an installation disk; I have a set of recovery disks that only work with the specific hardware of my desktop.

In the meantime I am able to run Red Storm Rising through an Amiga emulator and Aces of the Deep through DOSBox. So, I am not at a total loss by any means.

goldorak · 01-05-10, 06:36 AM

Yes dosbox is really a gem of a program.
You can actually play at native speed for the most part a big fraction of all dos games ever made.
I've run Silent Hunter I and Sierra Fast Attack under dosbox and they're flawless. ^_^

AchtAchtel · 01-25-10, 05:03 PM

DW always worked flawlessly for me under Linux while using Wine. VirtualBox has to work, because it's a virtual environment, so no doubts about it. How about networking? Is VirtualBox DW capable of joining to multiplayer game session while in bridge networking mode?

Looking forward for responses in this thread.

goldorak · 01-25-10, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by AchtAchtel

DW always worked flawlessly for me under Linux while using Wine. VirtualBox has to work, because it's a virtual environment, so no doubts about it. How about networking? Is VirtualBox DW capable of joining to multiplayer game session while in bridge networking mode?

Looking forward for responses in this thread.

Dw works with sound in linux ? Are you sure ?

Because if you can play but hear no sound in sonar, and in the other stations the game is as good as dead. You can't play DW without sound.

AchtAchtel · 02-10-10, 04:55 PM

goldorak: wine runs DW smooth with sound effects for me. I have never experienced lack of sfx while using wine. I'd like to get answer to - how VirtualBox manages to run DW in networking mode? Does problems of stability or connecting occurs? Thanks for answers!

kgsuarez · 02-10-10, 07:48 PM

Say what!?

Please, tell us more about your setup. I would like some details on this. I have never had DW work with sound in Wine.

goldorak · 02-14-10, 02:39 PM

I'm with kgsuarez here : AchAchtel how did you get DW running under wine ?
The sound, and I mean sonar, pings this kind of thing never worked correctly under wine. So how are you playing DW at all ?

Care to explain that to us ?

The other explanation is that maybe the wine database is outdated and DW really works but I doubt that. Otherwise someone would have updated it in the meantime.

Rotary Crewman · 02-16-10, 01:49 PM

Been out of the loop for a while, but I was wondering, if the game is working on Linux does that mean it could work on OSX?

goldorak · 02-16-10, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rotary Crewman

Been out of the loop for a while, but I was wondering, if the game is working on Linux does that mean it could work on OSX?

The game doesn't work.
Under wine you don't have the sound effects which are pretty necessary to have to be able to play the game.
On the other hand installing DW in XP under Virtualbox will get the sounds but there are graphics problems with the interface, you can't change settings and so forth.

Your best bet would be to use virtualbox in osx.
Install xp in virtualbox and then DW. That should get you started, but the options menu won't work.

AchtAchtel · 02-21-10, 08:59 AM

I was running DW without any problems under wine for a long time, however - the only problem was networking.

Next thing is I was running it under v. old laptop (P3 1GHz) so I had to 'cut' all effects as possible. Laptop was Toshiba Portege 1505 and the linux distro was Debian. I can't remember any changes done to wine nor DW configuration to get sound work. Ping worked not so well (sometimes pings were lost or 'doubled' - kinda 'echoed') but in general - it was fully playable.

Can't remember what wine version was this, but surely some old, compiled on my own. Maybe I was lucky? :]

And again - please tell whether networking works on DW emulated on XP @ Virtualbox. Are you able to HOST or JOIN session?

12-30-09, 11:06 AM	#1
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Dangerous Waters and Virtual Box Well for those that might be interested : Dangerous Waters runs very well on XP in Virtualbox with 3d acceleration enabled. The only problem that still is not resolved is the gamma (too dark although you can still see the different stations) and most importantly some screens disappear if you select specific options, but they come back we those options are unselected. These problems are few so I hope the guys working on the 3d component of Virtualbox will have it fixed sooner rather than later. Oh and by the way the audio works 100%. All this for what you may ask ? Well if you're considering going all the way to linux and don't want to renounce to your daily drug of DW, Virtualbox is your only friendly alternative seeing that Wine still has audio not working so the game on Wine is perfectly useless. One less stone on the path to linux.

12-30-09, 12:16 PM	#2
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	There is a gamma setting in the ini file. Did you change that? __________________ My site downloads: https://ricojansen.nl/downloads

01-25-10, 05:03 PM	#8
AchtAchtel Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	DW always worked flawlessly for me under Linux while using Wine. VirtualBox has to work, because it's a virtual environment, so no doubts about it. How about networking? Is VirtualBox DW capable of joining to multiplayer game session while in bridge networking mode? Looking forward for responses in this thread. __________________ Dangerous Waters Multiplayer Community http://www.dangerouswaters.pl

02-10-10, 04:55 PM	#10
AchtAchtel Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	goldorak: wine runs DW smooth with sound effects for me. I have never experienced lack of sfx while using wine. I'd like to get answer to - how VirtualBox manages to run DW in networking mode? Does problems of stability or connecting occurs? Thanks for answers! __________________ Dangerous Waters Multiplayer Community http://www.dangerouswaters.pl

02-16-10, 01:49 PM	#13
Rotary Crewman Sonar Guy Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: The cold part of a Helicopter, the back. Posts: 395 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Been out of the loop for a while, but I was wondering, if the game is working on Linux does that mean it could work on OSX? __________________

01-04-10, 06:38 AM	#4
kgsuarez Planesman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 181 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Thank you for your post, goldorak. I am glad to hear that DW is kind of working under Linux now. I haven't been able to get VirtualBox running yet. I am stuck in dependency hell right now. Slackware Linux gives you a pretty bare-bones system, requiring you to hunt down all the dependencies when installing something as complex as VirtualBox. I am expecting a new computer any day now though. I ordered a laptop from Dell. I am planning to install Ubuntu on it, and then perhaps I'll have an easier time getting VirtualBox running on that. Have you tried running DW through VMWare by any chance?

01-04-10, 07:27 AM	#5
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	No I don't have VMware its too much of a bloated software compared to Virtualbox. The thing is you can either run DW under wine or in Virtualbox. In the first case you'll get no sound because that part of the Microsoft API hasn't been completely replicated in wine. So the game is basically useless even though graphically its ok. Now to run the game in virtualbox you have got to install beforehand XP. So its basically DW runs on XP that runs in Virtualbox that runs on linux. In this case the audio is ok but the graphics still has problems (for instance in the options menu you can see the little 3d screen but the different options are invisibile). Little problems like that. So in the end no solution yet for running DW 100% problem free under linux but we are getting there.

01-04-10, 11:44 AM	#6
kgsuarez Planesman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 181 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	I have tried running DW with wine and I am familiar with the sound issues. I certainly hope that the dev team can come up with a solution one of these days, as a simple layer of emulation provided by wine is preferable to running an entire virtual machine. My hardware is perpetually outdated and underpowered; Virtualization essentially murders my systems' performance. I'm mostly interested in running a virtual machine to play around with different Linux and BSD distributions. However, I am definitely curious about getting my games running on my Linux laptop. The only problem in all of this for me is that I do not have a copy of Windows XP to use with VirtualBox or VMWare. The only copy of it that I have is the one on my desktop. And I do not have an installation disk; I have a set of recovery disks that only work with the specific hardware of my desktop. In the meantime I am able to run Red Storm Rising through an Amiga emulator and Aces of the Deep through DOSBox. So, I am not at a total loss by any means.

01-05-10, 06:36 AM	#7
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yes dosbox is really a gem of a program. You can actually play at native speed for the most part a big fraction of all dos games ever made. I've run Silent Hunter I and Sierra Fast Attack under dosbox and they're flawless. ^_^

02-10-10, 07:48 PM	#11
kgsuarez Planesman Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: USA Posts: 181 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Say what!? Please, tell us more about your setup. I would like some details on this. I have never had DW work with sound in Wine.

02-14-10, 02:39 PM	#12
goldorak Admiral Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 2,320 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm with kgsuarez here : AchAchtel how did you get DW running under wine ? The sound, and I mean sonar, pings this kind of thing never worked correctly under wine. So how are you playing DW at all ? Care to explain that to us ? The other explanation is that maybe the wine database is outdated and DW really works but I doubt that. Otherwise someone would have updated it in the meantime.

02-21-10, 08:59 AM	#15
AchtAchtel Seaman Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 38 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	I was running DW without any problems under wine for a long time, however - the only problem was networking. Next thing is I was running it under v. old laptop (P3 1GHz) so I had to 'cut' all effects as possible. Laptop was Toshiba Portege 1505 and the linux distro was Debian. I can't remember any changes done to wine nor DW configuration to get sound work. Ping worked not so well (sometimes pings were lost or 'doubled' - kinda 'echoed') but in general - it was fully playable. Can't remember what wine version was this, but surely some old, compiled on my own. Maybe I was lucky? :] And again - please tell whether networking works on DW emulated on XP @ Virtualbox. Are you able to HOST or JOIN session? __________________ Dangerous Waters Multiplayer Community http://www.dangerouswaters.pl